Kronos feedback.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:11 pm

Sharp, I asked this in another thread, but maybe this is a better place...

The Kronos has USB-A connectors. Is there any chance this will allow direct connection of NanoPad/NanoKontrol/NanoKey? That could be very nice for live performance...

jgsidak · Post by **jgsidak** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:37 pm

Sharp,

For someone who composes at the Oasys and has no plans to use the instrument for live performances, do you think that switching to the Kronos would change the composing experience much?

Thanks.

Greg

Knightshift · Post by **Knightshift** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:41 pm

Scott wrote:The Kronos has USB-A connectors. Is there any chance this will allow direct connection of NanoPad/NanoKontrol/NanoKey? That could be very nice for live performance...

This would be an amazing feature!

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:49 pm

Scott wrote:Sharp, I asked this in another thread, but maybe this is a better place...

The Kronos has USB-A connectors. Is there any chance this will allow direct connection of NanoPad/NanoKontrol/NanoKey? That could be very nice for live performance...

Will ask today.

Regards
Sharp.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:54 pm

Sharp wrote:
Scott wrote:Sharp, I asked this in another thread, but maybe this is a better place...

The Kronos has USB-A connectors. Is there any chance this will allow direct connection of NanoPad/NanoKontrol/NanoKey? That could be very nice for live performance...
Will ask today.

Regards
Sharp.

Thanks. If they say no, hopefully a light bulb will go off and they'll say, hey, we might be able to add that in a future update...

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:58 pm

Please ask about RAM expandability and those other questions I raised here.

Thanks!

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:01 pm

Sharp, did you check out about questions I raised above?

Sorry, missed that one.

If I read the spec correctly, after loading PRELOAD.KSC you have 273 MB of leftover RAM for your stuff. Which means that seriously hinders user sampling? Or does Kronos sample directly to SSD, bypassing RAM?

It can do both.

Can user samples be streamed as well?

No.

If the whole 30 GB of SSD is filled, that probably won't fit into 1 GB of RAM?

I asked can you have all EXs libraries available at the same time and I was told no, so the RAM is already a limitation in that regard. Let me double check again today because I asked quite a lot of questions. It's hard to remember everything so accurately.

Did Rich mention anything about upgradeability of RAM? (Would be a shame if Korg didn't allow this.)

We spoke about it but I'm only in the position to say what it does now, not what it will or wont do in the future.

Regards
Sharp.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:04 pm

Sharp wrote:We spoke about it but I'm only in the position to say what it does now, not what it will or wont do in the future.

It sounds like maybe Korg did learn not to promise things that aren't available now.

Jan1 · Post by **Jan1** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:12 pm

Sharp wrote:
Did Rich mention anything about upgradeability of RAM? (Would be a shame if Korg didn't allow this.)
We spoke about it but I'm only in the position to say what it does now, not what it will or wont do in the future.

Regards
Sharp.

Thanks for keeping us up to date Sharp.

According to the specs at the Intel site the dual Atom uses DDR2(/DDR3) for memory, so depending also on the motherboard it should be possible to use a 2 GB or even a 4 GB stick as RAM memory.

I have another question about the KRONOS as a DAW controller: can the knobs and sliders on the KRONOS be assigned to an external source, in other words, are they midi-programmable?

Hedegaard · Post by **Hedegaard** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:59 pm

Thank you very much Sharp, for taking time to come here and inform us with valuable "Sina-delusion-free" information.

We appreciate it very much, especially when you could be out and eating steaks and McDonalds with min. 10liter coca cola sized cups.

Oh, and can you PLEASE take some more videos of the Kronos, your YouTube video of the rotating one showed quite good quality.

That would be fantastic!!

Hedegaard · Post by **Hedegaard** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:02 pm

Barnabeat wrote:can anyone who knows more than me...speak about the 32 bits of the OASYS and the different dbu with the kronos....i think the M3 is 24 bits like the KRONOS....so the OASYS SOUNDS BETTER AND BIGGER..IS THAT RIGHT?

Are you sure about that?

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:14 pm

Akos Janca wrote:Thank you Sharp. Another question: could you get an answer from Korg why they haven't mentioned OASYS at all when introducing KRONOS? It can't be an accident.

Sharp wrote:It's quite painful to hear the questions KORG are being asked by people. Most people here have very little understanding about most things and I'm pretty amazed how KORG staff remain so professional when people ask such stupid questions.

...

Making references to an existing product that most people don't know about is a utter waste of time.

OK, even if you don't ask and this was your own answer, and I don't want to force it anymore - but I'm surprised because 1. this question is not stupid at all (many of us asked it) and 2. OASYS is well-known by the people.

Thank you again, I'm not expecting an answer, but the reason seems to be something else.

UPDATE: OK, if OASYS is not well-known then I understand. (But still, the long presentation was aimed to experts who surely know OASYS...

)

afr · Post by **afr** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:17 pm

Sharp wrote:
Coming from the O, is there anything you didn't like?
The side panels are glossy. Glossy = Finger print stains.
lol... I hate my iPhone too for the same things, but I also love it for what it can do.

Regards
Sharp.

Hi Sharp,, first of all thank you very much for your detailed report, see
that you talked about the glossy side panels of kronos, I would linke to
have your feedback about the quality of materials used in these parts
May seem a minor issue, but with a view to using the machine
live is interesting to know if the materials are robust or not.

thank you very much again

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:19 pm

Akos Janca wrote:UPDATE: OK, if OASYS is not well-known then I understand. (But still, the long presentation was aimed to experts who surely know OASYS... )

I think two things would come into play there.

First, even though the dealers there presumably know OASYS, it would make sense for Korg to want to market the Kronos to them exactly the way they would like them to market the Kronos to their customers, because that's what they're going to come away with.

Second, the Oasys was very much a specialty product. I would not be surprised if most of the dealers there never even had one in their showroom. They certainly didn't sell boatloads of them. So the product probably doesn't "resonate" with them the way it does with you. And really, if you were Korg, it might not be the best thing to emphasize to their dealers, to say "Here's another version of something else that you didn't sell much of the first time."

Really, it's hard to simultaneously say "this is like nothing you've seen before" and "this is another version of something you've seen before." As I said... marketing message should be compelling, clear, consistent, concise. Emphasizing how much it's like an OASYS muddies the "game changer" message. These are the kinds of decisions marketing people have to make all the time. It's not a personal affront.

And remember, their job is not to appeal to the 3000 people or whatever who already have an OASYS (though some of them will probably buy it), their job is to try to appeal to the zillions of people out there with lesser Korgs, Yamahas, Rolands, and whatever else... OASYS doesn't mean anything to most of them.

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:33 pm

Scott wrote:And really, if you were Korg, it might not be the best thing to emphasize to their dealers, to say "Here's another version of something else that you didn't sell much of the first time."

I think I got it now Scott, thanks a lot.

Although they could continue the sentence as: "...but this time you will sell it like hot cakes!"