Just picked up my Kronos 61!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat May 21, 2011 10:46 am

jahrome wrote:Kronos onboard HELP manual is in English by DEFAULT. The manual says appears to say it can be in Japanese but haven't located how to do that.

Page iii, says onboard help is in English language ONLY.

jahrome · Post by **jahrome** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:05 am

EvilDragon wrote:
jahrome wrote:Kronos onboard HELP manual is in English by DEFAULT. The manual says appears to say it can be in Japanese but haven't located how to do that.
Page iii, says onboard help is in English language ONLY.

That's funny because I actually read that...I thought it said English-Japanese only. Wow...need to take a break from reading this manual..

donjuancarlos · Post by **donjuancarlos** » Sat May 21, 2011 7:13 pm

Does it really take over 2 minutes to boot?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat May 21, 2011 7:57 pm

As witnessed by this video, yes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoZfd8Kk8gc

donjuancarlos · Post by **donjuancarlos** » Sat May 21, 2011 8:17 pm

EvilDragon wrote:As witnessed by this video, yes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoZfd8Kk8gc

I saw it. I was hoping that was a pre-production version and that the keyboard was in debug mode, or something. Sighhhhhhhh.

sfernald · Post by **sfernald** » Sat May 21, 2011 8:41 pm

jahrome wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:
jahrome wrote:Kronos onboard HELP manual is in English by DEFAULT. The manual says appears to say it can be in Japanese but haven't located how to do that.
Page iii, says onboard help is in English language ONLY.
That's funny because I actually read that...I thought it said English-Japanese only. Wow...need to take a break from reading this manual..

You've got to be kidding me! You are the first one get the Kronos on here and you are just reading manual for days at a time? You are killing us!

Give us your review of playing with the thing? How does it sound? Give us an mp3 of you playing that sweet piano or better yet a YouTube of you exploring the thing. And most importantly, throw that english manual up on a file sharing service somewhere for us. It will be put up by someone any second so it might as well be you who gets the glory!

Please have pity on us...

sfernald · Post by **sfernald** » Sat May 21, 2011 8:56 pm

sfernald wrote:
jahrome wrote:
EvilDragon wrote: Page iii, says onboard help is in English language ONLY.
That's funny because I actually read that...I thought it said English-Japanese only. Wow...need to take a break from reading this manual..
You've got to be kidding me! You are the first one get the Kronos on here and you are just reading manual for days at a time? You are killing us!

Give us your review of playing with the thing? How does it sound? Give us an mp3 of you playing that sweet piano or better yet a YouTube of you exploring the thing. And most importantly, throw that english manual up on a file sharing service somewhere for us. It will be put up by someone any second so it might as well be you who gets the glory!

Please have pity on us...

Oh, you did already get the manual up there for us! Thank you!

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Sat May 21, 2011 10:16 pm

donjuancarlos wrote:Does it really take over 2 minutes to boot?

For me it was about 2 minutes and 10 seconds.

jahrome · Post by **jahrome** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:03 pm

Akos Janca wrote:
donjuancarlos wrote:Does it really take over 2 minutes to boot?
For me it was about 2 minutes and 10 seconds.

I get the same results. I turned off autoload for the PRELOAD.KSC files and Kronos boots up approx 15 seconds faster.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:13 pm

ONLY 15 seconds?

Not nearly enough difference... Certainly much less than expected.

MidnightPackage · Post by **MidnightPackage** » Sat May 21, 2011 11:23 pm

Is two minutes a long time? With my current configuration, between booting up my laptop, launching Kontakt, and loading the Alicia's Keys piano library it can be well over five or six minutes before I can play without any snap, crackle and pop. Yes my laptop is under powered but 2 minutes seems like a dream to me.

Melodialworks Music · Sun May 22, 2011 12:06 am

MidnightPackage wrote:Is two minutes a long time? With my current configuration, between booting up my laptop, launching Kontakt, and loading the Alicia's Keys piano library it can be well over five or six minutes before I can play without any snap, crackle and pop. Yes my laptop is under powered but 2 minutes seems like a dream to me.

Which just goes to show, it's all relative.

Megakazbek · Post by **Megakazbek** » Sun May 22, 2011 7:23 am

MidnightPackage wrote:Is two minutes a long time? With my current configuration, between booting up my laptop, launching Kontakt, and loading the Alicia's Keys piano library it can be well over five or six minutes before I can play without any snap, crackle and pop. Yes my laptop is under powered but 2 minutes seems like a dream to me.

Do you have SSD drive? It makes really dramatic difference. I actually measured time it takes to boot my PC with SSD and load a big project (20 VSTi tracks with FX, lots of heavy sample libraries, probably something like 20GB of samples used overall), and it is all under 1 minute - from completely powered-down state up to the point when I press play button and the song plays fully smoothly.
I simply cannot understand how is it possible that they installed SSD drive in Kronos and couldn't considerably reduce boot time. Actually I think 2+ mins is even LONGER than was Oasys with its slow HDD...

Melodialworks Music · Sun May 22, 2011 10:32 am

Megakazbek wrote: I simply cannot understand how is it possible that they installed SSD drive in Kronos and couldn't considerably reduce boot time. Actually I think 2+ mins is even LONGER than was Oasys with its slow HDD...

Except that the Kronos is loading in more stuff than the Oasys . . . .

JimH · Post by **JimH** » Sun May 22, 2011 5:01 pm

It might be loading a few extra things like a picture of a grand piano, etc. But I think two minutes is long for an embedded system, especially when that doesn't include pre-loading the samples. I'm not a Linux expert, but I know you can configure it to remove things you don't need and make it boot faster. (That was done by someone at my company for our product.) Korg developers are obviously pretty smart and I hope there's room for improvement in the future, although since the ancestry of Kronos is already relatively long with the OASYS....who knows.

It reminds me of something in a PBS documentary called Triumph of the Nerds which is about the history of the personal computer. If you're into computers you gotta see it. There's one part where Apple programmer Andy Hertzfeld is describing how Steve Jobs was trying to get them to reduce the bootup time of the first Mac:

“Steve was upset that the Mac took too long to boot to boot up when you first turned it on so he tried motivating Larry Kenyon by telling him well you know how many millions of people are going to buy this machine - it's going to be millions of people and let's imagine that you can make it boot five seconds faster well that's five seconds times a million every day that's fifty lifetimes, if you can shave five seconds off that you're saving fifty lives. And so it was a nice way of thinking about it, and we did get it to go faster.”