New digital Piano coming on Namm 2012 with Kronos SGX + Ep

[rrricky rrrecordo]

Neither nor to any degree that would play any role in playing.
When I zoom in on some posts here, I see lots of weird things as well.

Man, I play that keyboard each day, and I begin to find it really funny how others try to interpret pure nonsense and non-existent problems into it.

But IF anyone has that kind of minimalistic problem expressed here, that certainly isn't my cup of tea anymore. Then we should just agree that I am living in a completely other world of music making than some.

I'm not questioning the RH3's playability. I do wonder about its design, QC and durability over the long haul.

[lbartram]

I've read a lot of the posts in this thread. I own a Kronos 88. For me, it is the nicest action I've ever experienced in a keyboard (other than a Steinway Model D that I played once). I've owned an OASYS, several Kurzweils, a Motif, an Alesis, and a Roland (I can't remember the name now).

This Kronos keybed is the best of them all, and I include the Motif, here, that I dearly loved.

If the music coming out of my Kronos isn't any good, it isn't the keyboard's action, it is me!

[PinkFloydDudi]

This Kronos keyboard is the best of them all, and I include the Motif, here, that I dearly loved.

I feel the same way, thats why I gave up with discussing anything with the Bruce guy. My keybed spacing is nearly perfect, same with the height differences.

He admitted that it doesn't impact his playing at all, yet is ranting up and down about how the keybed isn't good.

If there is a spacing difference, you are looking at literally fractions of millimeters. I've played a lot of acoustic pianos that have different spacings as well.


As jim hinted, in looking back at posts by Bruce, he has pretty much nothing to say good about the kronos. Wish the forum had an ignore ability.

[panrixx]

I think the posts by Bruce used to be informative and very worth reading but this has changed recently. His keybed is obviously in need of replacement and this one issue seems to have dominated his thoughts of late. Rather than let this one issue colour his whole judgement of the Kronos I think Bruce would be better off directing his efforts in getting a relacement asap.

Bruce, I am not talking about you so much as to you. Have you approached Korg yet regarding a replacement? I noticed you mentioned, somewhere, that you were looking to get an Oasys instead. Did I mis-read that?

[Bruce Lychee]

I think the posts by Bruce used to be informative and very worth reading but this has changed recently. His keybed is obviously in need of replacement and this one issue seems to have dominated his thoughts of late. Rather than let this one issue colour his whole judgement of the Kronos I think Bruce would be better off directing his efforts in getting a relacement asap.

Bruce, I am not talking about you so much as to you. Have you approached Korg yet regarding a replacement? I noticed you mentioned, somewhere, that you were looking to get an Oasys instead. Did I mis-read that?

That's really my question. Is my keybed normal or in need of replacement? If it is normal, I will learn to live with it, despite my opinion that it is ridiculous. Based on what I have seen on SV1s I think it is normal. Members could help shed some light on the subject if they would get at eye level and examine their keybeds.

[panrixx]

Bruce,

I am still awaiting delivery of my K88 (1st week in Sept. I am told). I would be happy to examine it and take photos if that helps. However, I cannot believe that your keybed is normal. Have you sent your photos to Korg and asked them for thier observations?

[Bruce Lychee]

Bruce,

I am still awaiting delivery of my K88 (1st week in Sept. I am told). I would be happy to examine it and take photos if that helps. However, I cannot believe that your keybed is normal. Have you sent your photos to Korg and asked them for thier observations?

No. I just took the picture yesterday. I'm definitely going to do that in the interest of all members.

[johnxyz]

But what I'd really REALLY want is a Kronos spin-off with just the synth engines. No HD-1, no SGX-1, no EP-1, just all the other synth engines. And perhaps a few engines more (like wind physical modeling in addition to STR-1, and then the missing Wavestation EX, M1 EX, and of course, Mono/Poly EX, all missing from the Legacy Collections!). More knobs instead of sliders (ENDLESS ROTARIES, PLEASE!), additional pedal inputs, vector joystick for Wavestation, I'm a happy camper.


I'd buy that in a heartbeat in case Korg wouldn't cheap out on the build.[/quote]




AGREE

[Jeremy Bender]

As previously posted I feel very lucky to have a Kronos 88 in the UK and it's a low serial number (17). However, maybe I am not completely lucky as there are a couple of issues with my keybed. Perhaps this is an issue with earlier production units?

Firstly the highest key does sit lower than the rest by 1 to 2 mm. The lowest key also sits fractionally lower as well. The rest of the keys are not bad with some spacing differences and some very minor height diffs but nothing that affects playability for me at all.

However, the highest and lowest keys thunk against the case as if they lack cushioning and most of the top 2 octaves of black keys do the same. Again, it does not affect playing and if the volume is up I don't hear the sound but it does seem to indicate that the cushioning has moved or is missing on some keys.

I am not minded to try and take it back as I love playing it but it's clearly not a perfect specimen! Otherwise I love it

If I could work out how to post a photo on this forum I would!

[madbeatzyo111]

It's a little disturbing to see such a large variation in key spacing/height from keyboard to keyboard. Some seem acceptable (Jim's) while others are clearly not (Bruce's and McHale's). One possibility is that they've relaxed the QC specs a bit in order to get more units out in this crucial first couple of shipments.

[EvilDragon]

If I could work out how to post a photo on this forum I would!

1. Find your photo on your computer
2. Go to www.imageshack.us
3. Upload the photo there
4. Paste the FORUM link here.

[jimknopf]

The best reaction to keep Korg quality control attention high simply is to return all devices in doubt. We can all deal with minimal differences, but I don't see any reason to keep something annoying.

I guess you are right about the pressure under which the first units were pushed on the market. But I also think that Korg will be willing to get things straight in doubt: it's much better for their reputation and success of the K, if the guarantee works well in cases of quality issues.

[aron]

I agree. Just return it and get another or sell it. Everyone has heard about the problems. Now do something about it.

[Bruce Lychee]

I agree. Just return it and get another or sell it. Everyone has heard about the problems. Now do something about it.

The only reason I will sell it is if Korg comes back and tells me it is normal and within their tolerances. I really hope that isn't what ends up happening.

It would be interesting to hear a Korg rep chime in and tell us if the RH3 picture I posted looks normal.

[aron]

> I really hope that isn't what ends up happening.

Bruce, doesn't sound like they will. I think that if you say you are not satisfied, they will replace it.