The legendary sandstorm topic

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:03 pm

I have attempted to replicate the sandstorm/feel the beat synth
and have done a decent job- but theres something thats making it incorrect, and i can't put my finger on what it is.

So i will post the patch here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/mhcsy4

tell me what you think- and how to improve it

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:04 pm

btw here is a link to the original for those of you who (somehow) havn't heard of sandstorm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HQaBWziYvY&ob=av2n

tpantano · Post by **tpantano** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:36 pm

I ALWAYS hear this song on the radio or when I'm up in the club but I can't find what its called...its all beats one part of the song is like this

k like it will get real low then slowly start picking back up and it will go faster as it does

its like
dun dun dun dun
dun dun dun dun
err
dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun
dundundundundundundundundundun

er er er er er er ER ER ER ER ER ER der der der der derrr

i'm so sorry if this is bad information but i'm sure if you think of REALLY popular techno/rave songs you could help!! thanks!!

danielb · Post by **danielb** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:05 pm

Maybe we should have programming challenges to see who can get nearest to a certain sound.

Here's my attempt. I am pretty sure I've nailed the basic sound. The only thing I can't be sure about from the Youtube video is the effects.

http://www.type34.info/temp/Freeze%202- ... el%201.wav

I couldn't listen to the OP's attempt because I don't have an R3.

tpantano · Post by **tpantano** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:23 pm

By the way, I just made this patch in less than 15 seconds.

1. Initialize Patch.
2. Apply hardclip waveshape, 100%
3. Turn LFO1 to 100 Hz
4. Patch LFO1 to Pitch, Roughly +15

Done.

Oh, you kinda needa add delay and shiznit as well, but I do that in post.

danielb · Post by **danielb** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:48 pm

tpantano wrote:By the way, I just made this patch in less than 15 seconds.

1. Initialize Patch.
2. Apply hardclip waveshape, 100%
3. Turn LFO1 to 100 Hz
4. Patch LFO1 to Pitch, Roughly +15

Done.

Oh, you kinda needa add delay and shiznit as well, but I do that in post.

Wow you're fast . . it took me at least 30

It would never have occurred to me to use your method, which certainly gets pretty close.

I got there in a completely different way. Init patch, switch both oscillators to square wave, turn on ring modulation, turn oscillator 2 semitones to 9. Add drive.

Possibly turn env 2 attack up a bit.. Not sure about that.

That's about it really

tpantano · Post by **tpantano** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:39 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbga8ivfAd4

This video is full of failure. And adding delay added like, 6-8 seconds to my time.

But still, here's how it came out.

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:53 pm

woah thats pretty spectacular how something so simple could be enriched so much by tiny effects... good job tpantano, you definately beat me- but i still really think the sound has a triangle and a saw... but it doesnt matter- you got it 100% right in the simplest way haha.

Since were on sandstorm right now, i will post the second part of this.

Feel the beat: (also by darude) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN84To5ndw0

you might recognize this, as it was the song that was released soon after or before sandstorm, not sure which one. it uses the same sandstorm lead, but it has a new sound, that accompanies it far better- this ghostly epic pad sound that doesn't have that much of an attack on it. It sounds simple enough, but it really isn't.

i'll post my attempt as soon as i have a better attempt

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:54 pm

nvm: wrong description, its more of a hard trance chord

danielb · Post by **danielb** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:55 am

The pad in the second clip sounds like a jp8000 supersaw.

In the second clip you can hear the lead better. I really think it was done with ring modulation.

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:47 pm

whats the difference between the jp8000 supersaw and a korg r3 supersaw?

and btw what are the chords? i can't figure them out lol

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:27 pm

a JP8000 supersaw is made by....

Supposedly, you can't get any other synth to sound like a roland supersaw. Just sounds like a challenge to me.

Morshu · Post by **Morshu** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:50 pm

roland is overrated it doesnt sound that great lol i think a korg could do it better

danielb · Post by **danielb** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:26 pm

X-Trade wrote:a JP8000 supersaw is made by....

Supposedly, you can't get any other synth to sound like a roland supersaw. Just sounds like a challenge to me.

I think there is some truth in that. You can get close, of sourse, but it won't really sound like a JP8000.

I'd be happy to supply the supersaws from my JP8000, and my attempt to get them on the Radias,

Should I start a new thread?

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:11 pm

danielb wrote:
X-Trade wrote:a JP8000 supersaw is made by....

Supposedly, you can't get any other synth to sound like a roland supersaw. Just sounds like a challenge to me.
I think there is some truth in that./ You can close, of sourse, but it won't really sound lioke a JP8000.

I'd be happy to supply the supersaws from my JP8000, and my attempt to get them on the Radias,

Should I start a new thread?

Yeah, sounds like an interesting discussion.

some clean samples of the JP8000 SuperSaw to listen to, see how close we can get on the Radias.