Kronos and SoundFont 2!

Discussion relating to the Korg Kronos Workstation.

Moderators: Sharp, X-Trade, Pepperpotty, karmathanever

User avatar
BasariStudios
Approved Merchant
Approved Merchant
Posts: 6510
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 4:56 am
Location: NYC, USA
Contact:

Kronos and SoundFont 2!

Post by BasariStudios »

Dan, Rich or anyone? Whats up with the SF2 Loading? I havent successfully
Loaded one yet...it either gets stuck or File Unavailable or it Loads and the
Samples are MUTED. Which SF2 Files is it supposed to Load exactly?
SF2s Saved in ESC 3.9 or AWAVE Studio 10.01 are the files i use.
ESC i dont know in what version but AS Saves in SF2 2.04 Version of SF2.
Any clarification?

Thanks
http://www.basaristudios.com
Cubase 8.5 Pro. Windows 7 X64. ASUS SaberTooth X99. Intel I7 5820K. ASUS GTX 960 Strix OC 2GB. 4x8 GB G.SKILL.
2 850 PRO 256GB SSDs. 1 850 EVO 1TB SSD. Acustica: Nebula Server 3 Ultimate, Murano, Magenta 3, Navy, Titanium.
User avatar
ak
Approved Merchant
Approved Merchant
Posts: 497
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:05 pm

Post by ak »

Nadim,

I have the same problem and I sent many files to Korg USA support but never got a reply or an answer.

For some reason, if you load a large file SF2 in the Kronos then it will then FREEZE. The same case was in the M3 and Korg never fixed it.

I think the SF2 conversion is poorly implemented in both M3 and Kronos.
http://www.kelfar.net

<a href="https://www.korg.com/Services/kronos_re ... tabsKELFAR" target="_blank">KELFAR SOUND LIBRARIES @ Korg Shop</a>
<a href="http://kelfar.net/KronosSounds.htm" target="_blank">KORG KRONOS SOUND LIBRARIES</a>
<a href="http://kelfar.net/prod08.htm" target="_blank">Korg M3 World Music Set</a>

Image Image Image

Korg M3 and Kronos
User avatar
Sharp
Site Admin
Posts: 18221
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2002 12:29 am
Location: Ireland
Contact:

Post by Sharp »

Saved in ESC 3.9
Ooohh...cool.
How did you get your hands on 3.9 ?

I've been waiting for 4.0 to be released forever, and seems 3.6 is all I can see under the login pages.

Regards
Sharp.
User avatar
apex
Platinum Member
Posts: 2340
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:22 am
Contact:

Post by apex »

Yes and this is very dis-heartening to me. I very much purchased a Kronos with this specific function in mind. It was messed up on the m3 and has still not been corrected on the Kronos.

I hope that it's addressed and resolved in the 1.5 update.

There are some work-arounds but the take TONS of time...

has something to do with the start/end point of the imported sample.
Please subscribe and follow me on Youtube and Facebook for information related audio technology.

YouTube -
https://www.youtube.com/juliusdeberryjr

Facebook -
https://www.facebook.com/majesticstudiosllc

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/majesticstudios_jld/
User avatar
BasariStudios
Approved Merchant
Approved Merchant
Posts: 6510
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 4:56 am
Location: NYC, USA
Contact:

Post by BasariStudios »

Oh dear James, hahaha, i am sorry man, i meant 3.6.9...lolllzzzz...sorry.
Karim and Apex, yes, i think i can comfortably with full conscience state
that M3 and Kronos NO! DO NOT SUPPORT SF2! So save your self the time guys.
http://www.basaristudios.com
Cubase 8.5 Pro. Windows 7 X64. ASUS SaberTooth X99. Intel I7 5820K. ASUS GTX 960 Strix OC 2GB. 4x8 GB G.SKILL.
2 850 PRO 256GB SSDs. 1 850 EVO 1TB SSD. Acustica: Nebula Server 3 Ultimate, Murano, Magenta 3, Navy, Titanium.
spo elman
Posts: 36
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:55 pm

Post by spo elman »

no succes here either. Any solutions?
popmann
Senior Member
Posts: 350
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:17 pm
Location: Nashville

Post by popmann »

Has there been some crazy cool sf development in the last handful of years? I scoured the net looking for them back in the Gigastudio days...mostly antique tiny samples...mostly home grown...I got a couple cool Sonic Implants drum kits with some purchase...they were good enough to use years ago...but, really--what's the driver for so many wanting this compatibility in a $3k+ workstation?
User avatar
Shakil
Platinum Member
Posts: 1169
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2002 7:06 pm
Location: New Jersey, USA
Contact:

Post by Shakil »

I think soundfont is also being used as a conversion route from other formats that can not be imported direclty.
Roland Fantom-G6 ARX1, Korg M3-m exb-Radias, Korg Z1-18v, Roland MC-808, Roland MC-909, Korg microKontrol.
User avatar
BasariStudios
Approved Merchant
Approved Merchant
Posts: 6510
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 4:56 am
Location: NYC, USA
Contact:

Post by BasariStudios »

popmann wrote:what's the driver for so many wanting this compatibility in a $3k+ workstation?
Cuz the 3+K Workstation doesnt have a basic Sampling Toor or Editor in
Software Version...to create a Multisample you have to kill your self doing it.
But if you create it in Kontakt or elsewhere on the PC (which is fast and easy)
and then export it as SF2 on the Kronos will just Load in 1 Second.

Do you now GET the Driver or Fuss about this?
http://www.basaristudios.com
Cubase 8.5 Pro. Windows 7 X64. ASUS SaberTooth X99. Intel I7 5820K. ASUS GTX 960 Strix OC 2GB. 4x8 GB G.SKILL.
2 850 PRO 256GB SSDs. 1 850 EVO 1TB SSD. Acustica: Nebula Server 3 Ultimate, Murano, Magenta 3, Navy, Titanium.
User avatar
SeedyLee
Platinum Member
Posts: 1397
Joined: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:48 pm
Location: Perth, Australia

Post by SeedyLee »

How can you be sure that AWave and ESC are creating 100% compliant SF2 files? Are you sure the fault isn't with these conversion tools?

It would indeed by nice to have a Sample Editor that runs on PC (not sure if Korg's plugin editor will have this). If not, I'm happy to investigate the feasibility of developing a simple multi-sample editor.

Either way, editing samples on the Kronos is a dream compared to the Triton LE ...

Anyone know if the sample format for the Kronos is simlar to that of the Triton?
Current Equipment:
Korg Kronos 2 88, Reface CS, Roland JV-1080, TE OP1, Moog Subsequent 37, Korg ARP Odyssey, Allen & Heath Zed 18, Adam F5, MOTU MIDI Express XT, Lexicon MX200 & MPX1, Yamaha QY700, Yamaha AW16G, Tascam DP008ex, Zoom H6, Organelle, Roland J6 & JU06A

Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One
User avatar
Shakil
Platinum Member
Posts: 1169
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2002 7:06 pm
Location: New Jersey, USA
Contact:

Post by Shakil »

SeedyLee wrote: Either way, editing samples on the Kronos is a dream compared to the Triton LE ...
We are talking about multi-samples, not samples.
Roland Fantom-G6 ARX1, Korg M3-m exb-Radias, Korg Z1-18v, Roland MC-808, Roland MC-909, Korg microKontrol.
spo elman
Posts: 36
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:55 pm

Post by spo elman »

if i load sf2 files, it does load the samples, but i've to create the multisample myself. Then i convert MS to program and i've got the patch i wnat, but this have to go easier...
User avatar
SeedyLee
Platinum Member
Posts: 1397
Joined: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:48 pm
Location: Perth, Australia

Post by SeedyLee »

Shakil wrote:
SeedyLee wrote: Either way, editing samples on the Kronos is a dream compared to the Triton LE ...
We are talking about multi-samples, not samples.
Sorry, yes, I was incorrectly using the terms interchangably.
Current Equipment:
Korg Kronos 2 88, Reface CS, Roland JV-1080, TE OP1, Moog Subsequent 37, Korg ARP Odyssey, Allen & Heath Zed 18, Adam F5, MOTU MIDI Express XT, Lexicon MX200 & MPX1, Yamaha QY700, Yamaha AW16G, Tascam DP008ex, Zoom H6, Organelle, Roland J6 & JU06A

Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One
User avatar
apex
Platinum Member
Posts: 2340
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:22 am
Contact:

Post by apex »

what exactly is going wrong....?
Please subscribe and follow me on Youtube and Facebook for information related audio technology.

YouTube -
https://www.youtube.com/juliusdeberryjr

Facebook -
https://www.facebook.com/majesticstudiosllc

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/majesticstudios_jld/
User avatar
BasariStudios
Approved Merchant
Approved Merchant
Posts: 6510
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 4:56 am
Location: NYC, USA
Contact:

Post by BasariStudios »

SeedyLee wrote:How can you be sure that AWave and ESC are creating 100% compliant SF2 files? Are you sure the fault isn't with these conversion tools?
No, the fault is Korg's no matter how bad the conversion Tools are, Korg
should provide us with something.
http://www.basaristudios.com
Cubase 8.5 Pro. Windows 7 X64. ASUS SaberTooth X99. Intel I7 5820K. ASUS GTX 960 Strix OC 2GB. 4x8 GB G.SKILL.
2 850 PRO 256GB SSDs. 1 850 EVO 1TB SSD. Acustica: Nebula Server 3 Ultimate, Murano, Magenta 3, Navy, Titanium.
Post Reply

Return to “Korg Kronos”