Who's Krome for, and - it get its own forum??

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Sharp wrote: A decision which has been made, and I bet not one person would disagree with me either. Creating a dedicated section for the KROME was the right thing to do as it will be used exactly as expected.
I personally think that EVERY product with its own product page on the KORG website should be mirrored here with its own forum. And it just so happens to be the case for workstations and synths--with one glaring exception. Guess what that one is?
Sharp wrote: My expectationof the KROME needing a dedicated section are based on knowledge and facts. I do not pick and choose what to support on the forums based on weather I like it or not.
The FACTS are that KORG's analog products in the past have been hugely popular, genre defining instruments (monopoly, polysix, many others).The monotribe/trons, though much more simplistic, are representatives of that same family of synths--just like the Krome is derived from popular predecessors (Kronos, M50, etc.). Perhaps you draw the line on "knowledge and facts" at the 90's?

Sharp, if it is YOUR judgment that it is not worthwhile to create and moderate a forum for monotribe/trons here, then come out and say it. Own the decision like an admin should. I'll accept it and go elsewhere to post about them. Just don't hide behind the excuse that there's no demand or expectation for support; it's infuriating because the rest of us know very well that there is.
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I personally think that EVERY product with its own product page on the KORG website should be mirrored here with its own forum. And it just so happens to be the case for workstations and synths--with one glaring exception. Guess what that one is?
Incorrect.

There is a category that caters for every product KORG makes. Some are dedicated, some are not because there is no need as there is no demand for it.

Every end user is catered and as the need for dedicated sections grow for those that do not have one, as always, one is created.
The FACTS are that KORG's analog products in the past have been hugely popular, genre defining instruments (monopoly, polysix, many others).The monotribe/trons, though much more simplistic, are representatives of that same family of synths--just like the Krome is derived from popular predecessors (Kronos, M50, etc.). Perhaps you draw the line on "knowledge and facts" at the 90's?
You are simply not getting the point at all.
Everything decision and everything that happens is directly related to the end users needs and the community overall. It makes no difference if the monotribe is massively popular and KORG sold 50 billion of them in the morning if none of those people would even come here.

If there is no demand from our members for a dedicated section, then one simply will not exist.
Sharp, if it is YOUR judgment that it is not worthwhile to create and moderate a forum for monotribe/trons here, then come out and say it. Own the decision like an admin should. I'll accept it and go elsewhere to post about them. Just don't hide behind the excuse that there's no demand or expectation for support; it's infuriating because the rest of us know very well that there is.
Sorry, but this is simply not true. What I've said is exactly how it is and it's a very logical process that does not involved my persoanl preference for certain types of hardware at all.

Anyone who things I am not creating an analog section simply because I don't like analog equipment, or I'm picking and choosing what to support based on my personal feelings is only fooling themselves.

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Sharp wrote:

There is a category that caters for every product KORG makes. Some are dedicated, some are not because there is no need as there is no demand for it.
Which category does the monotron and monotribe belong to? I'm asking an honest question here since I've seen threads relating to these products ALL over this place with NO attempt by moderators to consolidate to one "category." I used to think it was the Electribe forum, but then you stated yourself in this thread that it should be General Synth. Frankly it seems like you and the other mods have not given a shred of thought or consideration to the whole product line.
Sharp wrote: If there is no demand from our members for a dedicated section, then one simply will not exist.
The naivete of this statement is staggering. You of all people should know that given a place to congregate, people WILL come. Without one, they NEVER will.
Sharp wrote: Sorry, but this is simply not true. What I've said is exactly how it is and it's a very logical process that does not involved my persoanl preference for certain types of hardware at all.
Maybe I really am not getting your point. Because based on your logic, I really don't see how Krome gets a dedicated forum so quickly after a grand total of NO ONE actually asking for one. Oh right, it was based on your expectation of it being a success. So that means that you expected the monotribe/trons to fail?
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Sharp has supported us well, after many post were made for the micro station, a separate Catagory was started.

While I own all the monotones and the Monotribe, I don't see the need for a separated category as there simply is not much to talk about.
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Hi madbeatzyo111.
Which category does the monotron and monotribe belong to?
I've explained this already more than once.
The naivete of this statement is staggering
Your demonstration of ignorance to the fact that I've been running this forum for over a decade and therefore are far more qualified than you to decide what should and should not happened based on the rules that exist and the needs of the community is quite unsettling.
You of all people should know that given a place to congregate, people WILL come. Without one, they NEVER will.
Absolute nonsense. If that were true, 60% of the different sections wouldn't even exist here because they came from demand over time.

KORG Forums didn't even have an Arranger section for years, yet one grew from demand and now we have the ONLY active KORG Arranger section on the Internet.

It's clear to me that this is EXACTLY the way to do things. Forums pop up all the time and offer dedicated places for countless products. Then nobody goes there and they die.

I've seen countless Discussion Forums die for the exact reasons you want to see happening here.

You have no idea that the true success of a forum is to create a “community”, not a technical support site where people go with their problems. There must be a balance, but the balance must ALWAYS gravitate far more towards giving people a community and a place to come and relax even when they don't have any issues.
Maybe I really am not getting your point. Because based on your logic, I really don't see how Krome gets a dedicated forum so quickly after a grand total of NO ONE actually asking for one. Oh right, it was based on your expectation of it being a success. So that means that you expected the monotribe/trons to fail?
Yet again another example of you not listen to a word I've said.
By your logic we should have a Guitar Tuner section since KORG sold large volumes of them.

But you ignore the fact that nobody wants or needs a Guitar Tuner section. Just like there is no need for a dedicatedly Monotribe section. For what little take takes place regarding those, people are catered for as there is a KORG Synths General section.

If ever the need actually comes, one will be created.

If you still don't see the logic in any of this, well that's too bad. You just have to accept it because that's how it is.

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I'm drawing a line underneath what I've just said above because I now want to address a very serious matter. You have created a separate thread on the Monotribe in the KRONOS section and issued pretty much what I see as a slap in the face to my efforts and the efforts of our moderators.

Mark my words mate, you have crossed a line and if you dare do anything like that ever again you will be removed from this forum without so much as a second thought.

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