Korg R3 recording

3DOFan · Post by **3DOFan** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:23 pm

I've been trying to record midi data from my korg r3 into the piano roll in FL Studio 10, but it only records one of the notes on the whole keyboard, and it seems to be controlling the drums for the other notes, but it controls them based on the channel in the step sequencer(for example: note 1 plays drum 1 note 2 plays drum 2 note 3 plays a software synth note note 4 plays drums)

Anyone know how to fix this? I can't find anyway to make it not play or record into the step sequencer. I have a usb uno 1x1 and the korg r3 midi usb cable.

3DOFan · Post by **3DOFan** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:46 pm

nvm I fixed it by changing the midi channel of my R3 to 2 instead of 1, but my question now is how do I map knob settings of the r3 into midi out on fl studio?

3DOFan · Post by **3DOFan** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:12 pm

Sorry for the triple post, but I didn't want to start a new topic. I have an issue with feedback when I record my R3. I can't really notice it generally, but If I amplify the sound in audacity(at a point where no sound is being played) I hear this noise feedback sound. I have to amplify it +50 for it to fill up the area. I'm wondering, how can I get rid of this feedback?

thehighesttree · Post by **thehighesttree** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:29 pm

Mapping can be done by looking in the manual and figuring out how to assign CC numbers to the knobs, I think. I haven't tried cross-platform Control Changes over MIDI but I know this is how it's done.

There should be no feedback: if there's feedback it means the signal is playing into itself and being amplified, so go through the logic and figure out what could be adding to the signal. If it's a very faint, high-pitched whine you might be getting interferance from the MIDI connection. Try alternating between USB and MIDI interface if this is a problem, if that doesn't solve it you should consider getting a better interface that has an integrated MIDI/sound mix. I've encountered a high whine using the same interface, but I only keep my R3+MIDI hooked to my computer for patch backup. :\

3DOFan · Post by **3DOFan** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:26 pm

it just sounds like white noise and I can't even hear it unless I amplify it by +50. There isn't really a pitch to it. I just have it plugged in through the line in. Do you think it could be something to do with my audacity settings?

thehighesttree · Post by **thehighesttree** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:11 pm

With anything having to do with an electric sound signal path, it helps if you make sure your incoming levels are as high as they'll go without clipping. Garbage in = garbage out, so if you're trying to boost a signal that's coming in faint (R3 volume too low), then more of that sound will be composed of static. Check all your levels and make sure they're "full" up to the final stage to optimize your sound. Hope that solves it!

EDIT: Only other thing I can think is that you're using a line-in designed for mic input. You might need to look at getting an audio interface that runs into a USB or firewire port on your computer. In any case make sure it's not just a matter of your levels being off before you go out and buy more gear.

3DOFan · Post by **3DOFan** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:15 am

so your saying the r3's volume should be max and I should just lower the sensitivity so that it can do that?

maybe sensitivity is the wrong word, but you know what I mean.

thehighesttree · Post by **thehighesttree** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:23 pm

If not maximum, then as high as it will go without distorting into whatever you're feeding it. Check the PEAK lights of everything including your computer--in sequential order--to ensure you have the levels as high as they can stay consistantly without peaking.

It's more headache to go through and make sure the level at each segment of your gear is right than to have it all optimized until the last stage (R3>mixer>computer audio-in level>Audacity, so Audacity in this case), which should be the only one you tweak. If your signal is going through strong at all points prior to Audacity, then it eliminates the need to reverify those previous points, and ensures you get the best sound possible.

3DOFan · Post by **3DOFan** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:58 pm

well that helps a lot, now Iget very minimal feedback, so minor that it is almost like it isn't there.

But, now I'm having a different issue, I've been putting my microkorg through my korg R3 via a cord from the output of the microkorg to the input 1 hole on the korg r3 and have also put a midi cord coming from the r3's midi out to the microkorg's midi in and aI have a usb midi cord coming out of the midi in on the korg r3.

Well, I've been trying to use the r3 as a distortion and filter for the microkorg and have been trying to control it via midi, it sort of works, but when I try to do legato portamento it seems to cut out and lower it's volume a lot.

It seems to be a sort of midi nightmare..

3DOFan · Post by **3DOFan** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:06 pm

nvm that was somethign to do with my audio settings. I fixed it.

I still get a very minor feedback noise on everything I record, the only thing I can think could be causing this is either the fact that I have an extra adapter put on the adapter that goes into my r3, or the fact that my audio cord that is going into my computer is being recognized as "microphone" and not "line in"

I'm not sure where the line in on my computer is quite frankly, as generally it should be in the front correct? but it doesn't seem to be for me.

is there any kind of software or thing I can download to cancel out this noise as I record or prevent it from being recorded with the noise?

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:23 pm

Mic ports often have built in amplification so aren't ideal for line level inputs and will introduce a lot of noise.

It's not called 'feedback' by the way unless it's a high pitched tone caused by amplifying signals coming out of the computer and going back in causing a resonant loop..
What you are hearing is more likely called 'noise' or 'distortion'. It's difficult to tell without hearing a recording exactly.

Your Line In socket will probably be found on the back of the computer, it may be labeled pictographically for example with an arrow going into a circle.. sometimes it is difficult to tell and even I would struggle.

You'll still get better sound quality from a dedicated (typically USB) audio interface.

3DOFan · Post by **3DOFan** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:53 pm

I don't really care about quality, I just want to not have white noise when I record.

I got rid of the amplification on the microphone settings.

I actually had feedback before, now I don't because I wired a midi cord to the thru on my r3 into the thru on my microkorg and disconected the usb midi interfaces(but kept one of them connected to the microkorg, rather than the r3)

I have to amplify it about +50 in audacity to actually notice the white noise, but its still frustrating.

Do you think plugging it into the line in would get rid of the white noise?(or at least make it extremely quiet)