A new Workhaus for a Music Production?

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:37 am

Bachus wrote:
X-Trade wrote:Yes, I was talking about spinning disks. But as I said that is not necessarily true now either.

SSDs are faster in larger sizes because they tend to stripe it across multiple cells in parallel, much like a RAID0.

Still, 512GB and 1TB SSDs are pretty damn expensive.
The new samsung 840 evo, which is about as fat as it currently gets in SSD drivess costs 280 euro for 500GB... Quite acceptable.. And the 1 TB is only 480 euro...

Pricess for SSD drives are dropping rapidly.

does it have 1200mb/sec speed?

There are other things to consider besid the raw speed and capasity.
I have heared that Flash has limitted number of writes unlike Hard drive, so u need make shure that it will surve u enough long until u upgrade to next computer

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:40 am

Bachus wrote:The biggest letdown for macs for live use as a VST host is the fact that OSX does not support touchscreens...

Windows 8 and vsts and a huge 27" touchscreen are a match made in heavens when performing live and having full controll over your ableton live or vsts on the screen...

http://youtu.be/Wy6Kl2jPNcY

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:44 am

Bachus wrote:
Bachus wrote:The biggest letdown for macs for live use as a VST host is the fact that OSX does not support touchscreens...

Windows 8 and vsts and a huge 27" touchscreen are a match made in heavens when performing live and having full controll over your ableton live or vsts on the screen...
Its all ost 2014, and having to use a mouse toclick on things while behind a keyboard is so much 2012 and before... Touchscreens work much more intuitive with vsts controll interfaces.

Even if i had possibility to use touch screen i will use mouse and keyboard, but i yhink it depend of person.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:49 pm

Yeah, I had looked at the Samsung the other day (I keep an eye on consumer SSDs until they will be cheap and reliable enough to put in our servers). It looks pretty good and I might have to get one or something similar later next year for my macbook. Still pretty expensive though compared to spinning media.

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:02 pm

http://youtu.be/26cqeqem2Ew

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:38 am

http://youtu.be/QT7PXTbrq00

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:25 pm

http://youtu.be/ohd8LNWGjiI

blackmamba · Post by **blackmamba** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:17 am

The problem with touchscreens is that they are not anti glare for now

Bachus · Post by **Bachus** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:44 pm

blackmamba wrote:The problem with touchscreens is that they are not anti glare for now

You got anti glare screenprotectors that support the touchscreen option..

And there are some anti glare touchscreen options on the market... But not yet from the big brands..

On top of that, sunlight is not really a problem in the studio, and thats where anti glare is really important... I dont see a reason to have an anti glare monitor in a studio

blackmamba · Post by **blackmamba** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:50 pm

Bachus wrote:
blackmamba wrote:The problem with touchscreens is that they are not anti glare for now
You got anti glare screenprotectors that support the touchscreen option..

And there are some anti glare touchscreen options on the market... But not yet from the big brands..

On top of that, sunlight is not really a problem in the studio, and thats where anti glare is really important... I dont see a reason to have an anti glare monitor in a studio

Don't you have lights in the studio?

It depends on your taste and needs, but in my opinion and for now,I don't see the point of touchscreen for real application softwares.
It's not comfortable, I mentionned the anti glare lack, and it makes the screen dirty ...
A computer will never be a tablet

Post by **Sharp** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:17 pm

I don't see the point of touchscreen for real application softwares

Funny because I don't really use a mouse much any more since moving to Windows 8 and a touch screen.

About the only time I use a mouse now is when I'm editing photo's or something that requires very fine accuracy.

Regards
Sharp

blackmamba · Post by **blackmamba** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:33 pm

Sharp wrote:
I don't see the point of touchscreen for real application softwares
Funny because I don't really use a mouse much any more since moving to Windows 8 and a touch screen.

About the only time I use a mouse now is when I'm editing photo's or something that requires very fine accuracy.

Regards
Sharp

Interesting

What kind of softwares do you use for example?
Do you have the feeling that touchscreen is more convenient than mouse?

Post by **Sharp** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:14 pm

Too many to list....

Traditional desktop applications that are not Touch optimised still work with a touch screen rather well if your running an OS like Windows 8 as the OS itself gives you the touch screen experience. This however is not ideal in all cases. While it is a nice experience most of the time, a mouse is still needed quite often for fine detail. But this is in my opinion not the future of computing.

Traditional desktop applications are already starting to go native Touch Screen too, and the difference its making is exciting.

Check out SONAR X3 for example.
http://www.cakewalk.com/products/sonar/touch.aspx

Moving onto true Touch Enabled Software, which there is already a massive range of.

Any application that is fully optimised for a Touch Screen does not require a mouse at all. In fact they make the mouse completely redundant and entirely obsolete.

For example, all native Windows 8 Apps, all iPad Apps and all Android Apps have no use whatsoever for a Mouse. It would be even silly to even considering using one with them as the Touch Screen in this situation is infinitely more efficient than the mouse.

On a personal level, even from my own development point of view, all the software I write now is optimised for Touch Screens. I would have quite number of Production Management systems running in factories and about 2 years ago I started the process of making them all touch screen optimised. This has made a tremendous difference and I know for a fact that nobody using my software would ever dream of using it with a mouse now. The Touch Screen and Traditional keyboard are far more efficient in this case.

Regards
Sharp.

MoonMusic · Post by **MoonMusic** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:04 pm

The first time I played around with NanoStudio on my ipad, I immediately noticed how much more ideal using touch screen versus mouse was....You can do things so much faster....I can't tell you how much I wish Protools was set up for this....Imagine, to add a track just touch a +Track button which would open a submenu of track buttons to choose which kind, as soon as you touch that button - boom there's your instrument track....Touch instrument button on that track to choose submenu of VST - boom, there it is....LOL....Want to edit a wave, touch your finger where the edit is, hold it there and slide your other finger across to zoom in exactly where you want to edit....It really is going to be MUCH faster.....moon

blackmamba · Post by **blackmamba** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:49 pm

It's interesting.

I guess it really depends of one's needs.
For me, a touchscreen tablet will never replace a monitor.
And for touchscreen monitors, well, I guess it should be very tiring for the arms after some hours. Moreover, I still can't see any improvment for touchscreen ergonomy.

Buy a nice mouse with lot of possible customization and it will do the job very good, with zooms, etc ...
A mouse is a genius tool, it allows to cross centimeters by moving it by some millimeters.
And I don't even talk about the keyboard ...