The New Electribes

Blue Monster 65 · Post by **Blue Monster 65** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:44 pm

Buska wrote:Bad news guys, I was just reading through the YouTube comments from the beta tester who made those 4 tracks that are currently on YouTube.

He was saying that there is only ONE editable parameter per synth preset!

Source, please. I don't recall reading that at all and I'd like to do so.

Buska · Post by **Buska** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:04 pm

Blue Monster 65 wrote:
Buska wrote:Bad news guys, I was just reading through the YouTube comments from the beta tester who made those 4 tracks that are currently on YouTube.

He was saying that there is only ONE editable parameter per synth preset!
Source, please. I don't recall reading that at all and I'd like to do so.

"There are 16 parts. 24 voice polyphonie. Each part can play 4 notes at the same time and be send to an effect. For each part you can select a range of sounds from drums to synth oscillators. Each Oscillator has a predefined edit parameter , + pitch and glide. The Filter section has the different filters of the famous King Korg. There are Master Effects you can edit with the Kaoss Pad, and you can choose which parts are sent to this master effect. There is an Audio Input. You can sync with Monotribe, Volcas etc ..."

"+alecsbuga I'am affraid you can't get into the oscillator details like the electribe emx. This one is simplified on that aspect. You have a choice of different synth oscillator combinations (from simple saw, pulse etc... to ring modulator, noise...) You will have less choice of combination than with the emx but never the less this electribe seems very powerfull. "

From the comments section of this video:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a16Eub1VOqs

Olivander12 · Post by **Olivander12** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:31 pm

Hm, I dont know guys. If one regards all avaiable information, the impression rises that the new electribe is not as independent as the EMX. It looks like it wont be an instant buy.

Blue Monster 65 · Post by **Blue Monster 65** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:35 pm

Thanks, Buska. Those comments came in after I saw the video. Really makes me want to both see a more detailed manual and get my hands on one before I buy.

brambos · Post by **brambos** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:02 pm

Blue Monster 65 wrote:Thanks, Buska. Those comments came in after I saw the video. Really makes me want to both see a more detailed manual and get my hands on one before I buy.

I'm sure Sonic State will touch upon this in their review as soon as Korg lifts the embargo. They're usually first with in-depth reviews.

Blue Monster 65 · Post by **Blue Monster 65** » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:47 pm

Nick is great - nice guy, too. I'm sure he'll get to the bottom of it, hopefully before it's released.

You did the TunaFish program, didn't you Brambos? (I've probably asked that before.)

brambos · Post by **brambos** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:07 pm

Blue Monster 65 wrote:You did the TunaFish program, didn't you Brambos? (I've probably asked that before.)

Yes, that was me. Tunafish, Hammerhead, Tuareg/Tu2. Those were the days... good times!

Buska · Post by **Buska** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:20 pm

brambos wrote:
Blue Monster 65 wrote:You did the TunaFish program, didn't you Brambos? (I've probably asked that before.)
Yes, that was me. Tunafish, Hammerhead, Tuareg/Tu2. Those were the days... good times!

Aha hammerhead, loved that program

Tom 62 · Post by **Tom 62** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:27 pm

If I remember correctly: B.Box (distributed by Steinberg in a nice metal box) too ...

brambos · Post by **brambos** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:06 pm

Tom 62 wrote:If I remember correctly: B.Box (distributed by Steinberg in a nice metal box) too ...

Correct! That one as well!

FreshHorses · Post by **FreshHorses** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:38 pm

Evidently, the sampler has everything the synth one has (including the King Korg based synth engine) minus only the PCM sounds. If that really is the case, I don't expect many people will choose the synth one.

grokostimpy · Post by **grokostimpy** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:23 pm

So, if someone loaded the samples from the EMX2 into the ESX 2, they would be the exact same machine?

...and for the same price, it makes the EMX2 seems a bit silly, ay?

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:17 am

man this is like the blind leading the blind. Too many rumors and maybes circulating.

From the Korg website:

In addition to a sampler sound engine that lets you use your own unique and original sounds (samples), there are also several types of analog modeling sound engines that are great for creating synth basses and pad sounds. There can be up to a total of 999 preset and user samples, and a maximum of 270 seconds of sampling time (calculated as monaural) can be used. The unit is shipped with numerous drum, rhythm/phrase loops, and hit samples included. (collaborations with Sample Magic, Loopmasters, Prime Loops are included)

The sampler (esx2) has the same sound engine as the electribe (emx2) but nowhere does it mention that it has the same waveforms. I highly doubt Korg would commit such an egregious error.

Now compare this to what's mentioned on the electribe page:

For the electribe, KORG designed a synth engine that gives you the maximum sound-creating freedom and the fastest sound production. The 409 oscillator waveforms include analog modeling and PCM. The analog modeling synth engine provides a broad variety ranging from simple basic waveforms to complex combinations such as dual, unison, sync, ring modulation, and cross modulation. The PCM sound engine provides mainly rhythm sounds, but also covers multisamples for keyboard. (collaborations with Sample Magic, Loopmasters, Prime Loops are included)

There's no way that the sampler will have this many waveforms onboard. Wait for the rest of the documentation to come out and you will see.

EDIT: Not only that, the emx2 has 17 onboard filters while the esx2 only has 3. See the specifications section on Korg.com to confirm.

FreshHorses · Post by **FreshHorses** » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:26 am

doh. good points roblabs.

richbeemPOW · Post by **richbeemPOW** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:15 pm

I was pretty hyped with the new electribes, especially the new emx as i thought it came with a full blown kingkorg engine, but now I know theres no way Im buying. Anything. I though the battery and the portable aspect is what got me interested but finally, the 4 bar pattern compared to 8 bar, and the one parameter per oscillator really turned me off haha. Im sticking with the ESX, such a great machine, I think years from now It will be a classic box still. Prices on these will come down as the newer version is released but will eventually come back up. I mean, metal box, built like a tank, I think hands down the best drum machine out on the market sd. The new ones have not much more except polyphonic sequencing, for which you might as well get an mpc which has probably many more sequencing possibilities. I mean the new ones are cool dont get me wrong, korg has always come out with crazy cool stuff. But the ESX is CLASSIC from my point of view.