Does Kronos generate waves or does it use samples for oscill

[xxCDxx]

Does the Kronos generate waveforms? I know it has multisamples and loads samples and has drum samples but are the oscillators waveforms/samples or are they generated? I'm thinking of the synthesizer part not hd-1

[jimknopf]

If you would post the topic of your question in the header, people could decide if they want to read and react to it.

If everybody would post his topic with a simple question mark, this board would not work in any way.

[Broadwave]

Does the Kronos generate waveforms? I know it has multisamples and loads samples and has drum samples but are the oscillators waveforms/samples or are they generated? I'm thinking of the synthesizer part not hd-1

The oscillators in all engines except for the HD-1 and SGX-1 are software generated.

The AL-1 is a great VA synth and, in my opinion, much better than the recent stuff from Roland (the Gaia and Supernatural Synth in the FA-06 use sampled waveforms... and it shows!)

[xxCDxx]

Do you know of where in the booklet/manual it lets us know this?

[Davd C. Polich]

Do you know of where in the booklet/manual it lets us know this?

Seems you don't believe what the previous replies said.

So I'll repeat it -

the AL-1, MS-20, and Polysix are all virtual analog synthesizers.
They do not use samples. The MOD-7 is a modular FM synth. Its primary
oscillators are not sample-based either.

You can continue believing otherwise but that's the facts, Jack.

[xxCDxx]

really sounds like biz I still don't believe show me proof.

[jeebustrain]

go find one and play it yourself. Edit one of the programs and you will see

[Broadwave]

really sounds like biz I still don't believe show me proof.

Unfortunately I can't "prove" it without going into deep technical explanations, which I don't have time for, but I can ASSURE you that what I wrote earlier is correct. ALL oscillators are modeled except for the SRX and HD-1.

Trust me, I build synthesizers and I know the difference between sampled and modeled oscillators.

[Davd C. Polich]

really sounds like biz I still don't believe show me proof.

Now you're starting to come across as a troll, xxCDxx. Respected platinum
members with years of experience have told you the truth.

[Mr_SamDoogie]

To find out you have to go back into the history of the OASYS and previous korg how the engineers device an synthesis engine based on algorithms and dsp pretty complex stuff that lead to the synthesis engines of today Kronos as a flag ship off course. Some waves come from software modelling and to an extend the sample based waves such as for HD for piano etc.

Part of those engine gotten their own lines such as my own Microstation which is EDS based .

If you want to know what/how about parts of the inner try to Google synth designing ,Korg R&D, Dan Phillips. Its better then a simple yes/no question.

[Scott]

The oscillators in all engines except for the HD-1 and SGX-1 are software generated.

Actually, I seem to remember that the EP1 engine is a hybrid, which employs modeling, but includes actual Rhodes/Wurli samples.

[Zeroesque]

Do you know of where in the booklet/manual it lets us know this?

The beginning of each engine's section in the parameter guide gives an overview of how each synth makes it's sound. If you read that, you'll probably agree that the other posters in here are correct.

The only engine description that's even slightly vague about how it produces its sounds is the EP-1 with its "multi-dimensional synthesis." However the guide's section on this states that in creating the models for this synth they began by sampling the instruments before going into a lot of new proprietary modeling and processing to overcome traditional sampling's limitations with dynamics, cross-switching and such. Regardless of whether you would consider this sample playback or not, it does an excellent job achieving the goal of making a very playable synth that sounds and feels stunningly close to a real instrument, and much better than any other sampled EP I've played.

Please read Korg's own literature for yourself.

[Danextgen]

Does the Kronos generate waveforms? I know it has multisamples and loads samples and has drum samples but are the oscillators waveforms/samples or are they generated? I'm thinking of the synthesizer part not hd-1

The oscillators in all engines except for the HD-1 and SGX-1 are software generated.

The AL-1 is a great VA synth and, in my opinion, much better than the recent stuff from Roland (the Gaia and Supernatural Synth in the FA-06 use sampled waveforms... and it shows!)

Why do you say it's better?

It's a synth with great possibilities but like most things inside kronos it's just not fun. The interface is horrible and too complicated and for me the most important aspect while creating is to have fun.

In terms of sound and fun it's certainly inferior to the jupiter80/integra7, the new aira stuff and even korg's own kingkorg.

[Broadwave]

Why do you say it's better?

As I said "In my opinion" - Personally, I have no problem programing the Kronos. I know where each parameter is, and on what page to find it. After two years of use, it's become very intuitive.

Also, I'm here in my studio to get a job done, not to have "fun". Fun is reserved for Alien Isolation

[SanderXpander]

I think both have their strengths. The King Korg does some things really quickly but it has too few controls to do everything from the front panel. As soon as you start menu diving the experience is a whole lot worse than on Kronos. "Fun" for me is largely defined by being able to get what you want very quickly. Sometimes that's with KK, sometimes with AL-1. I also love PolySix, it's a LOT more versatile than I would have thought originally from its basic architecture.