Electribe2 petition for 8 bars , IFX fix, and FLUX mode

apapdop · Post by **apapdop** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:27 pm

SMK wrote:
I guess I am pointing this out because it would really suck if Korg had to spend all this extra time on these other "not-so-critical" updates to release a fuller firmware update just to get the most important one fixed; that being the sound.

Just a thought gals and guys.

I agree. I'm really excited about getting a new electribe, but that fx cutoff is nagging at the back of my mind. I'm not sure it can be sorted out completely, as i'm guessing resetting potentially 16 effects all at the same time takes some considerable CPU horsepower. I'm hoping the situation can be improved and that it is Korg's priority to do so (any word from Korg on the subject?). The other demands on the list, let's see what can be done with the thing as it is!!

Glitchcraft · Post by **Glitchcraft** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:46 am

Man after using it for a week this thing is super dope! The more and more I use it the better it gets. Velocity works great on it and all the arp patterns and gates have been bringing new life into some of my old synths. I have also been taking it with me and on my lunch break pull it out and make music with it and that is really fun. Anyways still want the 8 bars and IFX fix. You all are going to love it just wait!

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:08 am

nice...glad you're digging it! I just reserved one yesterday, hoping to have it mid December...

if you discover anything else interesting or cool, do let us know.

QUestion, which filter models do you like the best thus far?

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:53 am

Glitchcraft wrote:Man after using it for a week this thing is super dope! The more and more I use it the better it gets. Velocity works great on it and all the arp patterns and gates have been bringing new life into some of my old synths. I have also been taking it with me and on my lunch break pull it out and make music with it and that is really fun. Anyways still want the 8 bars and IFX fix. You all are going to love it just wait!

So glad to read that you have a better perspective on the Electribe 2.

I plan to use the gates to do the same for my MicroSampler, that is until the Electribe Sampler comes out

Have you tried controlling the new tribe with external controllers yet?

Glitchcraft · Post by **Glitchcraft** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:23 pm

Man not having the 8 bars is really stopping me from being able to record long synth parts. Please, please please fix this it is driving me crazy!

Olivander12 · Post by **Olivander12** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:49 pm

Glitchcraft wrote:Man not having the 8 bars is really stopping me from being able to record long synth parts. Please, please please fix this it is driving me crazy!

You posted this in every single thread, I think everybody knows that you prefer 8 bars instead of 4. Personally, I am all fine with 4 bars unless the sound is good. This is what counts

Tom 62 · Post by **Tom 62** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:38 pm

Olivander12 wrote:
Glitchcraft wrote:Man not having the 8 bars is really stopping me from being able to record long synth parts. Please, please please fix this it is driving me crazy!
You posted this in every single thread, I think everybody knows that you prefer 8 bars instead of 4. Personally, I am all fine with 4 bars unless the sound is good. This is what counts

This stupid decision by Korg can not be discussed often enough. It is also noticeable that a lot of the factory patterns were produced at half BPM.

Olivander12 · Post by **Olivander12** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:44 pm

Tom 62 wrote:
Olivander12 wrote:
Glitchcraft wrote:Man not having the 8 bars is really stopping me from being able to record long synth parts. Please, please please fix this it is driving me crazy!
You posted this in every single thread, I think everybody knows that you prefer 8 bars instead of 4. Personally, I am all fine with 4 bars unless the sound is good. This is what counts
This stupid decision by Korg can not be discussed often enough. It is also noticeable that a lot of the factory patterns were produced at half BPM.

Why should that be stupid? Do you think Korg did not think about that the decision? I doubt that. Four patterns are the standard in edm, most track are based on loops of lenght between 1 to 4 bars. If you need more bars, then you should simply not buy it to utter your protest. If you buy it, it is senseless to say, that 8 bars are not enough for you.

MatGreGor · Post by **MatGreGor** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:30 pm

New petition.

- Add the ability to copy one sound from one pattern to another.

I tink this is easy to make.

L551 · Post by **L551** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:43 pm

Olivander12 wrote:Why should that be stupid? Do you think Korg did not think about that the decision? I doubt that. Four patterns are the standard in edm, most track are based on loops of lenght between 1 to 4 bars.

It's so stupid it's amazing. People are used to having 8 bars with previous electribes and it would have been easy to implement. Korg obviously doesn't get that people use these machines for a lot of other things than shitty EDM. The amount of whining about 4 bars in the internet should wake them up and fix that in an update, but I don't know if Korg is one of those companies that actually listens to their customers.

Olivander12 · Post by **Olivander12** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:15 pm

L551 wrote:
Olivander12 wrote:Why should that be stupid? Do you think Korg did not think about that the decision? I doubt that. Four patterns are the standard in edm, most track are based on loops of lenght between 1 to 4 bars.
It's so stupid it's amazing. People are used to having 8 bars with previous electribes and it would have been easy to implement. Korg obviously doesn't get that people use these machines for a lot of other things than shitty EDM. The amount of whining about 4 bars in the internet should wake them up and fix that in an update, but I don't know if Korg is one of those companies that actually listens to their customers.

Korg released a new electribe with polyphony and an integrated Kaoss pad. This it what a lot of people wanted! It also features Ableton support, which dozends of EMX user are using. Korg is defiently listening to customers.

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:33 pm

L551 wrote: The amount of whining about 4 bars in the internet should wake them up and fix that in an update, but I don't know if Korg is one of those companies that actually listens to their customers.

Korg will add 4 bars via firmware as soon as they're finished drilling an extra 4 holes, fitting new backlit rubber buttons, and soldering 4 more bar switches to all the PCBs, and soldering additional flash storage to the internal memory bus.

Glitchcraft · Post by **Glitchcraft** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:39 pm

Ted3000 wrote:
L551 wrote: The amount of whining about 4 bars in the internet should wake them up and fix that in an update, but I don't know if Korg is one of those companies that actually listens to their customers.
Korg will add 4 bars via firmware as soon as they're finished drilling an extra 4 holes, fitting new backlit rubber buttons, and soldering 4 more bar switches to all the PCBs, and soldering additional flash storage to the internal memory bus.[/img]

DSI had no problem doing it.

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:51 pm

Glitchcraft wrote: DSI had no problem doing it.

What I'm saying is that the 4-bar structure is baked into the physical UI. There are 4 bar buttons: 1,2, 3 and 4.

There is probably just enough pattern storage memory to account for every available pattern filling 4 bars.

So 8 bars would not only break the user interface (now you would need to menu dive or fiddle with shifts that don't have a screen printed legend), it would also double the memory that each pattern needs.

And to implement an off-grid flux mode would increase the storage and DSP needs exponentially.

Firmware can only implement so much, unless the unit contains way more power and memory than needed. Usually there's only a little more to account for fixes and new simple features.

Buska · Post by **Buska** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:35 pm

Judging by the gap issue (from what people think is a cpu issue) the likelihood of the CPU doing 8bars is low.

But the original mini kaossilator had a hidden boot mode that doubled the pattern length.. It would be awesome if korg would update the tribe with a similar mode for those who really want to use it.

I find it blatant that the presets are half time, mista Bishi having to use delays to create drum fills because the quantize resolution was too large at half tempi to program them manually

give us 128 and 64 resolution quantize too!!

How are we going to make trippy offbeat drums if there is only 32 step quantize and no manual step shift parameter?

Truely baffling design decisions from korg here