Working with the Audio In oscillator on the electribe2

Because789 · Post by **Because789** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:42 pm

A question regarding the "Audio In" oscillator: as far as I can see there are two possibilities to play the part with the external audio source. Either you use the step sequencer as kind of a gate sequencer, i.e every selected step opens the gate and the audio gets through. Or you record one long note over your whole pattern to get an audio stream which is only affected by filter, modulation, IFX and MFX.

While the first possibility is fun and can deliver interesting results, sometimes I would love to get the audio unaltered by the sequencer. But the problem with the second approach is, that you get an audio drop out when the pattern switches to the first bar (because there's a note off message at the end of a pattern and a note on message at the beginning of the first bar). Is there a way to overcome this audio hiccup I missed so far (besides messing around with MFX or IFX)?

Edit: Ted3000 found the solution (http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... 999#622999):

Enter 16 notes in Sequencer mode, then enter Step Edit, go to the note length page, turn all 16 durations all the way up to Tie.

Spheric El · Post by **Spheric El** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:34 pm

There's an audio thru option were you don't need the osc/gate/filter etc, it just passes straight through to output. It'll be in the menu somewhere.

Because789 · Post by **Because789** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:14 pm

That's true, but that's not really an answer to my question. Let me rephrase it:

Can you use the FX chain on audio from external sources without the limitations described in the opening post?

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:31 pm

No, if you use Audio Thru it just passes thru the electribe unaffected. That's they only way you can avoid the audio drop, or else just time it right so you're not in the middle of playing when it returns to the first bar. In general that's how loopers work - you need a zero crossing when the loop ends or else you'll get that audio hiccup.

Spheric El · Post by **Spheric El** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:13 pm

Can you not set the release to max?
(Plus make sure filter ain't modulated by envelope).
Or will that not work?

Spheric El · Post by **Spheric El** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:24 pm

Or maybe try tie a note recording from end to beginning of pattern.

dutchcow · Post by **dutchcow** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:47 pm

^ I think so too. Recording one long note should do the trick. I only play notes/chords over midi for now and have no issues with that. Works great.

Because789 · Post by **Because789** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:05 pm

Thanks for your contributions guys.

@roblabs: The Audio In option doesn't work as looper, the trigger pads work as kind of a gate.

@Spheric El & dutchcow: Recording one long note is exactly what I tried (see op). But with that you get the hiccup I described, because there will be a tiny gap somewhere in the pattern when you release the pad just before the note plays again. You can fog this gap with IFX or MFX, but I thought there might be another solution.

I've also messed around with the release turned fully up, but it's simply not long enough. Might be that you can get a constant stream with the right EG setting and more than one note, but I haven't found it yet.

I have the feeling that this turns into a feature request for an Audio In option which bypasses the trigger pads but not the FX chain.

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:57 pm

Because789 wrote: ...there will be a tiny gap somewhere in the pattern when you release the pad just before the note plays again.

Instead of real-time-recording: enter 16 notes in Sequencer mode, then enter Step Edit, go to the note length page, turn all 16 durations all the way up to Tie.

I was playing with the Audio In oscillator for a guitar - only step-sequenced ties gave me a clickless, amp-less audio input. Otherwise releasing a pad will generate a note-off message.

Because789 · Post by **Because789** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:32 am

Ted, my personal hero of today, that's exactly the workaround I was looking for, thanks a lot!

I'm gonna edit OP with your solution, case closed.

(Even though I still think having an "Audio In FX only (bypass trigger pads)" feature would be nice.)

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:38 pm

Because789 wrote:Ted, my personal hero of today, that's exactly the workaround I was looking for, thanks a lot!

I'm gonna edit OP with your solution, case closed.

(Even though I still think having an "Audio In FX only (bypass trigger pads)" feature would be nice.)

You're quite welcome - and I agree. Audio In option that bypasses the amp would be great! Actually, Korg, if you're listening, here's a suggestion. Add a few more audio input modes.

Audio Thru 1: Passes stereo audio directly to outputs, bypassing synth and effects engine, mixed with electribe's output. (current behavior)

Audio Thru 2: Routes stereo audio to Master Effect section, but not to synth or insert section.

Audio In 1: Oscillator audio source that goes through synth and both effect sections. (current behavior)

Audio In 2: Oscillator audio source passes through filter, insert effects, master effect - but not amp. Amp gate is latched open without the need to input notes or hold down a pad.

Because789 · Post by **Because789** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:57 pm

Ted3000 wrote: Korg, if you're listening, here's a suggestion. Add a few more audio input modes.

Audio Thru 1: Passes stereo audio directly to outputs, bypassing synth and effects engine, mixed with electribe's output. (current behavior)

Audio Thru 2: Routes stereo audio to Master Effect section, but not to synth or insert section.

Audio In 1: Oscillator audio source that goes through synth and both effect sections. (current behavior)

Audio In 2: Oscillator audio source passes through filter, insert effects, master effect - but not amp. Amp gate is latched open without the need to input notes or hold down a pad.

+1 !!!

L551 · Post by **L551** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:57 pm

Can you use the electribe as an effects unit for an external synth? Sequencer stopped I mean, just route the audio through the IFX and MFX?

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:23 am

L551 wrote:Can you use the electribe as an effects unit for an external synth? Sequencer stopped I mean, just route the audio through the IFX and MFX?

Not now. That's the dream.

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:02 pm

Note: You CAN have Audio In Thru when using Audio In as an oscillator.

You might hear the Thru louder than the oscillator, unless you've got a latched 127 velocity with some level gain. But with some cleverness it should mask pattern changes, since Thru is not affected by pattern changes.