What is this effect called and how to create it?

ismaximum · Post by **ismaximum** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:53 am

Hi
Can you please watch this video and tell me how to program the touch pad to create this effect?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsmCVYL8qi4

Thanks so much

Dikikeys · Post by **Dikikeys** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:07 pm

This is a superb example of using the touch strip to do bending and vibrato!

Set your pitch strip to at LEAST a whole tone down and up (I have a feeling he's using a larger interval) and an absolute value (so that pressing the strip below or above the center position makes the pitch immediately jump to that pitch), and make sure you use a sound that has no vibrato on it already (you'll be doing the vibrato by rocking your hand on the strip).

But be aware... it's going to take quite some practice to be this good!

I am a HUGE fan of touch strips. They are the solution to all kinds of performance tricks that you simply cannot do with a bend lever/stick/wheel. Trills, untongued notes, hammer-on/offs, natural vibrato, the uses are limitless. To be honest, I could do quite easily without a bend lever if my keyboard had a strip! I find I have more fun, and feel more connected to what I play when I play my old Yamaha keytar than any keyboard with a lever/stick/wheel

Giner · Post by **Giner** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:40 pm

Agreed. Sounds like he may have a volume or expression pedal on there as well.

fResH_ · Post by **fResH_** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:57 pm

In sound mode Take a lead sound, Go to pitch section and choose +2 pitch ribbon

save the sound on user bank.

and in global set the sensitivity to your taste. wuallaaah now you can use the ribbon.

You can set the strip to have expression with the pitch, decrease Pitch minus and increas pitch plus with the sound. This may be good with some flute /ney sounds to get more feeling. You can make some great things with it. That was just one example.

ismaximum · Post by **ismaximum** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:06 am

Wow ... thanks guys for your replies. I will try and will let you know

fResH_ wrote:In sound mode Take a lead sound, Go to pitch section and choose +2 pitch ribbon

Thanks Matthew that you told me where to go to set this... otherwise it would me ages to find the right place

barry murphy · Post by **barry murphy** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:23 am

I just spent two hours trying this and I can't get it to work.
I tried with flute switch, put the ribbon on +2 NO GO.
I found a instrument that has it(santur fav mallet and bell p3/1.
still no go. What page should I be reading in the advanced?
baz

ismaximum · Post by **ismaximum** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:12 am

barry murphy wrote:I just spent two hours trying this and I can't get it to work.
I tried with flute switch, put the ribbon on +2 NO GO.
I found a instrument that has it(santur fav mallet and bell p3/1.
still no go. What page should I be reading in the advanced?
baz

Hummm neither do I... I believe the expression in that video is not just a sound pitch... it's something different. It's an expression that you can create with the bow with the original instrument.

DonM · Post by **DonM** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:31 pm

When the joystick on my PA3X broke, Korg had to order one from Italy or Mars or somewhere. It took several MONTHS to get it replaced anyway.
During this time I became pretty good with the touch strip. It's one of things I miss most on the PA900.
DonM

fResH_ · Post by **fResH_** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:39 pm

guys, tell me which sounds you want to be controlled with Ribbon. I will look it up for you guys and help

barry murphy · Post by **barry murphy** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:43 pm

That would be good matt
I'm trying to get the flute switch(woodwind page 3,4 ) to work. Can't make out the manual.Point me in the right direction pleaseeee!
baz

fResH_ · Post by **fResH_** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:59 am

barry murphy..

Here I made a video for you and everyone that wants to learn how to set ribbon to pitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwM0WQQ1k50

barry murphy · Post by **barry murphy** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:32 am

Wow thank you mr Einstein!!
I didn't do the osc thing. I will try again.
baz

Dikikeys · Post by **Dikikeys** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:55 am

BTW, here's a little tip for the pitch strip...

If you are using it in sprung mode (when you lift your finger it springs back to zero, not sure of the proper name) it can sometimes be hard to hit dead center for when you want to do a finger vibrato. Older touch strip keyboards like the Multimoog (and my older KX-5 keytar) had a little 'bump' in the middle of the strip, to help you find the zero point. Very handy (hard to understand why they stopped).

Perhaps you don't want to mess up your Korg, but if you are willing to do a small mod, it's worth laying a VERY fine bead of some kind of rubbery glue across the center, something that adheres well (degrease the strip carefully before you apply it) and is not too brittle or lacks durability.

Alternatively, at the least you might try painting a white dot in the middle, to guide your eye.

One of the most fabulous uses for the pitch strip is to do finger vibrato, like a violinist, cellist or guitarist would. Finger vibrato is SO much more realistic than using an LFO, because the speed and depth is completely under your control. Real instruments simply are incapable of the 'perfect' LFO vibrato, and your playing will immediately start to sound more realistic.

Real players change the depth and the speed of vibrato depending on the phrase, the tempo, the mood... The pitch strip returns all of that! But you need a bit of help to hit that center spot, otherwise you risk the note being out of tune fractionally, as well.

Mind you, that's not necessarily the worst thing to have (if done deliberately)..! By slightly moving your finger from side to side at each note boundary, you can change the intonation of the scale without resorting to Custom Scales and the like. Real handy for imparting a bit of ethnic 'flava' to a line.

Thank God for the Chord Sequencer! At last arranger players can free their LH from the tyranny of inputting rote chords constantly, and can get back to what made the early synth players so expressive... Killer pitch bend and pitch strip technique!

fResH_ · Post by **fResH_** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:46 am

Your welcome

barry murphy wrote:Wow thank you mr Einstein!!
I didn't do the osc thing. I will try again.
baz

fResH_ · Post by **fResH_** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:48 am

Your suggestions are good but not necessary needed.

If you practice alittle on the ribbon you will get a hand on it. You will not make any detune notes when you use it. All is just practice. I play mostly on ribbon and just sometimes on the pitch. I never make any detunes with the ribbon.

By the way there is a middle dot on the panel for the ribbon you can feel with you finger on the middle panel.

Like i said, just practice alittle get the feeling with it and you will controll it like a charm. No marks or anything is needed.

Dikikeys wrote:BTW, here's a little tip for the pitch strip...

If you are using it in sprung mode (when you lift your finger it springs back to zero, not sure of the proper name) it can sometimes be hard to hit dead center for when you want to do a finger vibrato. Older touch strip keyboards like the Multimoog (and my older KX-5 keytar) had a little 'bump' in the middle of the strip, to help you find the zero point. Very handy (hard to understand why they stopped).

Perhaps you don't want to mess up your Korg, but if you are willing to do a small mod, it's worth laying a VERY fine bead of some kind of rubbery glue across the center, something that adheres well (degrease the strip carefully before you apply it) and is not too brittle or lacks durability.

Alternatively, at the least you might try painting a white dot in the middle, to guide your eye.