Electribe Sampler 2 - review (of sorts)

dutchcow · Post by **dutchcow** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:39 am

I've heard rumors Yamaha might drop a new groove box sort of thing at the summer NAMM.

How nice would it be to get that, the E2 and the JD-Xi for a miniature computer-free studio setup.

thesigma · Post by **thesigma** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:13 pm

dutchcow wrote:I've heard rumors Yamaha might drop a new groove box sort of thing at the summer NAMM.

How nice would it be to get that, the E2 and the JD-Xi for a miniature computer-free studio setup.

If yamaha actually improved on their older designs instead of taking steps backwards it would be legendary. An Updated RS 7000 would rule all! And I don't care how much it costs. Serious keyboardists pay upwards of 3 k for a top of the line workstation. We don't need 88 weighted keys on a groove box, which cuts that price down but seriously something in the 1.5K area seems reasonable for a "workstation" grade groove box. Hell that's right around elektron prices. Electron makes good machines, but no one will accuse them of being all in one devices. Some people happily buy 3 or more, not sure why some companies think no one will pay for a high end groove box......

tim from texas · Post by **tim from texas** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:52 pm

I personally know WAY more people with three or four boxes that cost 500 or less than i know people who have two machines that cost 1000 or more.

I think groove boxes fit a target market of "filthy casuals" like myself who enjoy making music but arent super serious about it..

N3V3RM1ND · Post by **N3V3RM1ND** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:41 pm

Yamaha ReFace....

thesigma · Post by **thesigma** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:32 am

tim from texas wrote:I personally know WAY more people with three or four boxes that cost 500 or less than i know people who have two machines that cost 1000 or more.

I think groove boxes fit a target market of "filthy casuals" like myself who enjoy making music but arent super serious about it..

Probably so, but there are no shortage of you tubers out there with a machine drum and octatrack, or analog rythm and analog four, or octatrack, a4, and machine drum, etc...

Now from a strictly profit margin stance, selling a ton of $400 boxes is probably better than selling a lot of $1200 boxes. Still there are people willing to pay $1200 or more for a great box.

apapdop · Post by **apapdop** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:13 am

thesigma wrote:
Probably so, but there are no shortage of you tubers out there with a machine drum and octatrack, or analog rythm and analog four, or octatrack, a4, and machine drum, etc...

You mean potatoes and the like are making electronic music as well nowadays?

(Sorry, just couldn't resist that one...

)

dutchcow · Post by **dutchcow** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:14 am

Personally I think the best all-in-one non-sampling Elektron box is the Monomachine. 6 tracks are enough when you have parameter locks. Can do pretty much all drum parts on 1 or 2 tracks. The routing options inside the box are amazing and the machines are great too. Not to mention the single cycle waveforms and sound packs.

I would also buy an updated RS7k in a heartbeat. They are serious master sequencers and full of nice midi tricks and jobs. Even the RM1x wil still make great cheap studio companion if you use it for sequencing. Poly rhythms galore.

The Yamaha Reface, what will it be. Some hope a tiny all in one. They made some nice little groove boxes in the past. AN200 springs to mind.

tim from texas · Post by **tim from texas** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:23 pm

i hadnt heard of reface until i visited this thread yesterday.. looked it up and a lot of the hype was around the keys and how nice they are.. which is cool and all... unless you like rubber pads. also the boxes they come in seem super tiny based on the screen shots I saw. tiny package plus amazing keyboard? weird.

I follow dan the automator on instagram and he has posted several photos of the sampler 2 the last few days.. His only complaints so far were about the rigid beat structure and and something else i cant remember in the complaints on here.. he is messing with resampling now

https://instagram.com/p/4kdm_AgAkh/

https://instagram.com/p/4fMcP-gAmx/

thesigma · Post by **thesigma** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:23 pm

An200 and dx200 where great synths, but the groove box features sucked. 1bar patterns, crappy drums. Pattern change glitches if you used too much free eg( motion sequence).

Still the sound was fantastic.i have an an200 I got cheap just for the sound.

If I found an e2 for $125 Id buy it just for the sound too....

djkenstone · Post by **djkenstone** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:46 pm

I really liked the sequencer on the Akai MPC. I remember lots of tracks, mute groups, I/O, sampling & sample editing, nice pads, and when they added the synth to the MPC5000 I thought that was awesome and going in the right direction but then after that they are just making controllers....

Now they have a sampler without a sequencer...

I'm a one box man (:shock:), always on the lookout for the best all in one box.

apapdop · Post by **apapdop** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:47 pm

I had a dx200 years ago, it had this fantastic scene morph knob. Set two different A and B scenes, the knob would smoothly sweep all the FM parameters from one to the other. You could automate some wild, wild sounds with that little beast. Sigh....

apapdop · Post by **apapdop** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:42 pm

djkenstone wrote: I'm a one box man (:shock:), always on the lookout for the best all in one box.

A black one and a grey one would do me very nicely...

Frenzies · Post by **Frenzies** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:36 pm

dutchcow wrote:Personally I think the best all-in-one non-sampling Elektron box is the Monomachine. 6 tracks are enough when you have parameter locks. Can do pretty much all drum parts on 1 or 2 tracks. The routing options inside the box are amazing and the machines are great too. Not to mention the single cycle waveforms and sound packs.

I would also buy an updated RS7k in a heartbeat. They are serious master sequencers and full of nice midi tricks and jobs. Even the RM1x wil still make great cheap studio companion if you use it for sequencing. Poly rhythms galore.

The Yamaha Reface, what will it be. Some hope a tiny all in one. They made some nice little groove boxes in the past. AN200 springs to mind.

You seem to know your groove boxes well can you enlighten me.
Back in the late 90s I used to take my 01 /w and drum machines out to local clubs with a couple of DJs and put on Ibiza nights. One of the DJs, just before I moved away, got himself a groove box, which my memory tells me was a Korg, but may not have been. I saw it once in a shop in 2000 and then never again. The only thing I really remember about it was a preset it had which was basically just Setting Sun by The Chemical Brothers. It might have been a Yamaha box but I don't think the shop I saw it in stocked Yamaha stuff. Any ideas what it was, my memory is awful?

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:49 pm

apapdop wrote:
thesigma wrote:
Probably so, but there are no shortage of you tubers out there with a machine drum and octatrack, or analog rythm and analog four, or octatrack, a4, and machine drum, etc...

You mean potatoes and the like are making electronic music as well nowadays?

(Sorry, just couldn't resist that one... )

LOL am I the only one who got this?

thesigma · Post by **thesigma** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:21 pm

No, I get it. A potato is a tuber.

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