electribe2 Step Jump mode Motion Recording

Octahedron · Post by **Octahedron** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:30 pm

Great tip! Forgive my noob-ness but could anyone explain some things a bit more in detail or make a little video or something...

The note input I understand, push record hold step(s) in step mode, input notes with touch pad, release touchpad, release step pad, repeat for next note...

But i'm having difficulties comprehending how to use this with motion recording: for example: i want ifx only to be active on one or more steps: i push record, hold this step, turn on ifx, push next pad, push record, turn off ifx. But this does not work. Ifx switches on but never switches off. Or does this only work with rotary encoders? (and if so please explain how)

Also tried this for adding glide to certain steps but this is impossible because step jump switches off if you push shift.

Thanks in advance!

robotunes · Post by **robotunes** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:46 pm

1) are you making your changes while the step sequencer is running?

2) the glide knob only adjusts glide's speed. it can't be motion recorded, according to the manual. to turn on glide for a step, go to the *previous* step and, in step edit mode, set that step's gate time to TIE. make sure voice assign is mono1, or you won't hear the glide.

robotunes · Post by **robotunes** » Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:22 pm

ok, so here's how i do it, but it's not the only way. feel free to change it so it works for you:

You can motion record:
* All small knobs, plus cutoff (you can't do glide, volume, or input level)
* All fx buttons except MFX Hold
* Master Fx X, Master Fx Y

P-LOCKING VIA STEP JUMP

1) determine which knob/button you want to motion record

2) (this step is not required, but it's useful if you plan to motion record an Osc parameter) while the pattern name is showing, use < or > to scroll through all parameters and their original values. note the current value of your chosen knob/pad.

3) turn the chosen knob *almost* to the target value, or set your button to the state *opposite* of the state you want it to be. for example, if you want cutoff to be 56 on your chosen step(s), set the value to 55 for now. or if you want IFX off on your chosen step, turn it on for now.

4) start playback, enter step jump mode, hold one or multiple steps, then turn on the record button

5) turn the knob toward your target value, or turn the button to its target state. or use a connected keyboard to play the note you want.
NOTES:
* if you don't like what you hear, clear motion and try again (only the most recent motion recording is erased.)
* in some cases, it might be helpful to slow the tempo.

6) if you changed an Osc parameter, sometimes you might want to reset it to the original value you noted in step 2 above.
* turn the knob till it's near the original value in step 2 (or set the button to the opposite of its original value).
* hold the step that's *after* the last step you held in step 4 above.
* turn on record mode.
* turn the knob toward your target value, or change the button to its target state.

Steinberger · Post by **Steinberger** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:43 am

@robotunes please fly to Japan now, get a job at Korg, rewrite the manual and maybe add a few illustrations

Those guys could really use some YouTube videos.

Octahedron · Post by **Octahedron** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:25 pm

Robotunes, thanks a lot for explaining this, really helpful! It works!

But for glide what i want to achieve is glide on one step, not on all steps. Like 303 style slide. Now it seems: tied note or not, all notes use glide... That's why i wanted to try to motionsequence the glide amount, but i seems this is impossible on the new Tribe... Or is there another workaround?

Thanks again for taking the time to explain.

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:49 pm

Octahedron wrote:Robotunes, thanks a lot for explaining this, really helpful! It works!

But for glide what i want to achieve is glide on one step, not on all steps. Like 303 style slide. Now it seems: tied note or not, all notes use glide... That's why i wanted to try to motionsequence the glide amount, but i seems this is impossible on the new Tribe... Or is there another workaround?

Thanks again for taking the time to explain.

I've never had glide work on a step jump motion recording. The amount of glide seems to be applied globally, even after you stop step jump motion recording. Might be something to do with the shift function.

If I had to guess, I'd say that's a mistake in how it works. (Or maybe jump recording was a lucky mistake.)

If Korg would make glide work in legato mode only, it would make so much more sense. After all, if you pick one default behavior, pick the expected and useful one.

In the same category - it would have made much more sense to have 100% keyboard tracking for filter cutoff. Or at least a menu option.

Octahedron · Post by **Octahedron** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:31 pm

Step jump motion REC does not work with glide on mine because if i hold a pad for step jump and press shift it goes to the shortcut applied to that pad...

Ted3000 i remember in your acid test vid you managed to create a 303 style bassline with slides. How did you achieve slides? With motion sequencing of the pitch knob or the glide?

Ted3000 · Post by **Ted3000** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:12 pm

I think I had glide set at a small amount for all notes. The notes that are further apart make the glide more audible since there's more of a pitch difference. That, combined with a few legato ties made it sound it little more 303-ish. (But you will never fool anyone - neither the filter nor the sequencer will get you all the way there.)

I've also played with pitch knob tweaks when motion recording, but it's hard to get a good result. The key might be to record very slowly, then speed it back up for playback.

Octahedron · Post by **Octahedron** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:32 am

Thanks Ted, seems pretty time consuming to get a good result though... Would be great if korg implemented an easy way to achieve this (only glide on tied notes). Or maybe i should consider a tb3

picab · Post by **picab** » Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:57 pm

Thanks a lot for this indispensable tip.

colulizard · Post by **colulizard** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:58 am

Would be great if korg implemented an easy way to achieve this (only glide on tied notes). Or maybe i should consider a tb3

I've got a TB-3, and it is pretty good for that "tied note" glide. It's still not a TB303 though - don't expect it to sound exactly like 80s Chicago

Loudest · Post by **Loudest** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:26 am

I think the mode "StepJump" could be related to the "Sequencer" mode
what do you think about that?
We could be in sequencer mode and choose whether to activate the "stepjump" mode (by turning on (or off) the stepjump button)
but we stay always in sequencer mode, to see the steps, and navigate through different parts (hold sequencer button + pad)
the step jump mode would be more an "additive" to the sequencer mode.

the stepjump mode have no visual feedback for now ... it's a pity ..

In PartMute there is an equivalent problem
it does not really have any visual feedback (which parts actually contains notes? which parts actually playing?
(we could have some flashing LEDs as in the Trigger mode)

Another small detail,
I think it would be easier to do shift + sequencer for access to the stepedit mode
or shift + PartErase for access to "clear sequence"
(it is not much, but it seems to me it would be more "logical")
other solution:
press 2 times PartErase or Sequencer buttons then the leds flashes to indicate that we are in another mode (as in PartMute with the "solo mode")

plus, it would free up slots for other shortcuts (shift+pad1-16)....

Octahedron · Post by **Octahedron** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:26 am

^^ some great ideas, you should send these to korg.

They could improve the workflow on so many levels with just a few simple firmware adjustments...

Loudest · Post by **Loudest** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:06 pm

Octahedron wrote:They could improve the workflow on so many levels with just a few simple firmware adjustments...

I totally agree, this electribe 2 is really fun tool but it could be awesome with a little bit more programming...
I think almost all of the "limitations" could be improved via the "software part" (via an update of the OS / firmware)

Octahedron wrote:you should send these to korg.

Guys, do you know any good address to contact KORG for few suggestions?...

Lotek · Post by **Lotek** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:53 pm

great tips, thx all who contributed!