Liverpool Arranger - WHAT THE????!!!!!

karmathanever · Post by **karmathanever** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:28 am

Here it is

Everything we've (NOT) been waiting for:-
https://youtu.be/_3uJHlbzC6E

So - is it official? Well….. http://www.korg.com/au/products/synthesizers/liverpool/

It's not April 1st!! I'm worried now…..

Hmmmm - I need wine……

:3dbeer:

Korg Italy - come back!! We need you!!!!

Thoraldus · Post by **Thoraldus** » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:57 pm

Post by **Sharp** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:14 am

Maybe there's a demand for Beatles Tribute bands.

gargy · Post by **gargy** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:31 am

Coincidence ?

( From Korg FB timeline)
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 0153_o.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/KORGusa/photos ... 80/?type=1

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SKung · Post by **SKung** » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:51 pm

Looks like Kraft music is already preparing for the liverpool arranger
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Liverpool%20A ... com&t=ffcm

paul · Post by **paul** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:42 am

http://www.korg.com/us/products/synthesizers/pa4x/

Dikikeys · Post by **Dikikeys** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:49 pm

Maybe we are simply seeing a generational change, from the generation that came from the home organ, and wanted to play Tico Tico and ballroom standards, to the now aging generation that grew up with the Beatles and consider those ballroom oldies no longer relevant?

I for one welcome less of an emphasis on music that has little relevance to people under 70 any more, and a stronger emphasis on styles that celebrate the sixties and seventies.

The arranger has been around for 30 years or more, but you certainly haven't really seen a 30 year progression in the music it is designed to play..! We are still inundated with Madison's, Foxtrot's and old school Rhumba's, Latin music styles 60 years past their popularity, while functions and needs for today's music still get heavy promotion on WS's but fail to make even a cut down appearance on even the TOTL arranger, and a very half-hearted attempt to make 60's and 70's music the focus of the arranger as a type.

Perhaps this Liverpool approach is finally an attempt to mine the pocketbooks of the elderly, but not THAT elderly!

mrniceneasy · Post by **mrniceneasy** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:13 pm

+10 on that Diki

johnnie · Post by **johnnie** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:26 am

Anybody that sees this as anything other than cheapo plastic box of gimmick is dilusional. Whenever did the so called sixties Liverpool sound rely on 100 pre recorded Beatle song arrangements?? It is an insult to all the other great bands from not only Liverpool of the 60's but elsewhere in the vicinity of the of the Union Jack and? and? and? it goes on.
Remember the Yamaha Portatone same clunkity clunk.
Just for the record I am 75 and am of the opinion that there has always been good music for any age group from the 20's through to the present day I have favourites from all decades so please don't catergorise people over seventy as being inept musical tastes there is good and bad in all genre. I played in bands from the 60's to early 80's and never felt stuck in any particular decade.

Thoraldus · Post by **Thoraldus** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:03 pm

MY guess is that Sony/ATV Music Publishing, who owns the rights to these tunes, came to KORG and asked them to trot this out.

Who knows, I may buy one and stash it away ... it may be a collectors item some day!

Dikikeys · Post by **Dikikeys** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:18 pm

johnnie... no-one's putting down legacy musics, but even you have got to admit, there really isn't much difference in the basic musical direction of an arranger today and one from the 80's... Despite 30 years of turnover in audience tastes, and the gradual thinning of the audience for music from the 30's and 40's (and 50's, if truth be told!). They aren't getting any younger!

I am 60-ish myself... But I grew up with the Stones, The Beatles, Motown, classic Rock, New Wave, punk, etc., not Foxtrots, Bossa Novas and Madison's. And my audiences are rarely older than me!

I'm not saying drop those styles entirely. But they deserve a much smaller percentage of the ROM style effort than they get, and stuff like this (from the 60's and 70's) deserves much more effort.

Something puzzling me... is this arranger ROM only, or can it go beyond the ROM styles? If it can, why the hatred? It's simply a BOTL Korg arranger with a focus in the ROM styles for Beatles stuff, but it should be able to go well past that, shouldn't it? Can you load up any of the styles we have for PA600 or so?

Thoraldus · Post by **Thoraldus** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:25 pm

Dikikeys wrote: ... [snip]

Something puzzling me... is this arranger ROM only, or can it go beyond the ROM styles? If it can, why the hatred? It's simply a BOTL Korg arranger with a focus in the ROM styles for Beatles stuff, but it should be able to go well past that, shouldn't it? Can you load up any of the styles we have for PA600 or so?

It's the same keyboard as the MicroArranger except it has the added Beatles styles. You can load up to 352 User Styles if you overwrite the 304 factory styles.

I've got a MicroArranger gathering dust in a closet somewhere.

johnnie · Post by **johnnie** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:18 am

Dikikeys wrote:johnnie... no-one's putting down legacy musics, but even you have got to admit, there really isn't much difference in the basic musical direction of an arranger today and one from the 80's... Despite 30 years of turnover in audience tastes, and the gradual thinning of the audience for music from the 30's and 40's (and 50's, if truth be told!). They aren't getting any younger!

I am 60-ish myself... But I grew up with the Stones, The Beatles, Motown, classic Rock, New Wave, punk, etc., not Foxtrots, Bossa Novas and Madison's. And my audiences are rarely older than me!

I'm not saying drop those styles entirely. But they deserve a much smaller percentage of the ROM style effort than they get, and stuff like this (from the 60's and 70's) deserves much more effort.

Something puzzling me... is this arranger ROM only, or can it go beyond the ROM styles? If it can, why the hatred? It's simply a BOTL Korg arranger with a focus in the ROM styles for Beatles stuff, but it should be able to go well past that, shouldn't it? Can you load up any of the styles we have for PA600 or so?

Now loading up to date arrangers with a load of stuff that never gets used is another argument and I agree about that but leave some out and someone is going to have a gripe. for instance space wasted on slow bossa fast bossa why not just have a bossa same applies mostly to all the other ballroom stuff. Why have a jaz category various different swings it just needs some thought from the developers because with tweaking available these days small changes can be made. I am wondering where the sales for this box are going to come from
other than an entry level because it wont be long before these styles find their way to the higherarchy of the PA range ??

Dikikeys · Post by **Dikikeys** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:51 pm

My friend with the PA3X is already asking where he can get these styles...

nitecrawler · Post by **nitecrawler** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:24 pm

Dikikeys wrote:My friend with the PA3X is already asking where he can get these styles...

Tell him to buy the new Pa4x. I have it that these Beatles styles were created on its new midi to style converter.