Bottom plate - Fixing a Hole - Cooling the Kronos

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Bottom plate - Fixing a Hole - Cooling the Kronos

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This thread is meant as a possibility to lower the temparature every time you use the Kronos. Although fan noise can be significant less using this method, the main goal of this thread is keeping the instrument cool, and as a result prolong its lifespan. In an earlier stage I replaced the stock fan by a less noisy fan, but the generated heat inside the instrument kept bothering me.
The Kronos is in fact a closed cabinet. For cooling its ITX motherboard Korg placed a little fan to let the air circulate inside the Kronos. When you boot up, all of its inside parts, electronic components, keybed, it all rises significant in temperature!
This roadmap to a Cooler Kronos has three options:
(1): "natural" airflow with two 80mm holes in the bottom plate. No fans added. System temperature did not exceed 50 °C.
(2): One 92 mm fan added (pushing air inside underneath the motherboard), Internal little fan set to "slow", system temperature did not exceed 41 °C.
(3): A second 92 mm fan installed (pulling air). Internal little fan shut down by pulling the plug of the mainboard, system temperature did not exceed 42 °C.
I finally choose for this last option. However, the little fan is turned back on, set to “slow”. Then temparature did not rise beyond 38 °C. I can hardly hear any noise coming from the 3 fans.
Measurements are from the instrument's global/menu/fan control settings, with a normal room temperature (about 20 °C) and the activities of the Kronos set to playing a combi with rithmtrack/karma for about two hours. The drawings and measurements are based on a Kronos X 73.
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The holes are 80 mm in diameter, the fans are 92 mm (Coolink SWiF2-921, 16dB noise) The fans are 12V, but they work fine with 5 Volts taken from the Front panel USB-header, situated on the mainboard. With 5V power they are very very silent, but still have enough air flow to do the job.
The costs were 15 euro for the plywood, 14 for 2 fans, 2 for the grilles and 5 for the aluminium tape.
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You can keep the original bottomplate for warranty reasons. When your Kronos is older, you can also make holes in the original plate. However, its better to buy a piece of quality plywood. This because the holes can weaken the original HDF board as they are situated near the edge and near the feet of the Kronos.
You need to be handy and work precise. Especially the routing (depth) has to be done precise not to deform the keybed when assembled. Aside from common tools, you will need a router with parallel guide, a jigsaw or a holesaw, a caliper and a 6.5 mm wood or steel drill. Varnish and sand the plywood before you begin.
To be honest: I was a bit afraid to do this project. I still have 2 years warranty. I could mess up? But the saying is: nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Do this project at your own risc. Static electricity from your body can harm inside electronics, use proper protection. The drawings and measurements are based on a Kronos X 73. If you plan to do this project, take you own measurements also to be sure.
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What you need. Also a jigsaw or holesaw.

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On the original bottom plate there is a square situated right under the motherboard. Maybe Korg planned an opening but never realised this option.

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Underneath the original plate lies the new plate. This way you can use the old plate as a template and drill the 6.5 mm holes.

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Draw the Line

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Precise depth is important. After routing sand and varnish.

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Finished woodwork versus old bottom plate.

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Adhesive aluminium tape.

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Finished bottom plate.

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Mounting grilles on the outside.

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Mounting a fan. I used a mainboard speaker connector.

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option (3) with 2 fans added.
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Take care, wires should not come in between the bottom plate and the sides of the Kronos! This could develop a short circuit, and -because of another distance from plate to keybed- deformation.

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Ready!
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Well done! Probably not for everyone but well thought out and executed.

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Thanks Geo.
Guess you're right, probably not for everyone. But I think it's a good thing to post the results and the method.
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:arrow: I must emphasize this: the noise level is very low with these 3 fans running. It must be quiet around the house, then, with much effort I might hear something when I stick my ear in between the Kronos and the studio table.
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Nicely done! I have a different motive for this project.

Question: What's the difference in weight between the HDF board and the plywood? Was there a significant difference? I gig my 73 a LOT and the weight is the only thing I'm not in love with.
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Well, it's certainly useful mod, thank you, but how about the fact that Kronos actually needs no fresh air (that's why closed cabinet is ok and even protects it from dust and moisture) but cooling down its components, and the metal bottom cover is just an exellent and even giant heat dissipator compared to plywood, which is way less heat conducting. May be that was initial Korg's design ?
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NuSkoolTone wrote:Nicely done! I have a different motive for this project.

Question: What's the difference in weight between the HDF board and the plywood? Was there a significant difference? I gig my 73 a LOT and the weight is the only thing I'm not in love with.
The plywood is aproximately half a kilo less in weight. So that won't change that much to the weight of dear Kronie.
Being a modern musician is to carry a heavy burden. Unless you're very famous ofcourse.
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BronCode wrote:
NuSkoolTone wrote:Nicely done! I have a different motive for this project.

Question: What's the difference in weight between the HDF board and the plywood? Was there a significant difference? I gig my 73 a LOT and the weight is the only thing I'm not in love with.
The plywood is aproximately half a kilo less in weight. So that won't change that much to the weight of dear Kronie.
Being a modern musician is to carry a heavy burden. Unless you're very famous ofcourse.
Aluminum honeycomb (or a carbon fiber h.c.?) is the material that I've thought about...it might save you another half a kilo, but again 19.3 kg isn't much less that the stock 20.3 kg...it's all them weighted keys...

I thought about fans and cutting holes in the bottom, to keep things a bit cooler, but decided against such a major change to the KRONOS design...as described on another thread, I mounted another (quiet) 90mm fan inside blowing air directly at the motherboard heatsink, and that pretty much keeps the indicated System Temperature in the 60 degree C range, even on hot summer days...

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HOT SUMMERS DAY IN THE NETHERLANDS

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Dear Kronossians, this is an update with measurements on a hot day in the Netherlands. Maybe these measurements can be of use when you live in hot areas like Texas or Qatar or whatever hot place.
My Kronos X73 is equipped with the extra 2 fans for almost one year now. The stock fan is always set to "slow" (Global menu) I have had no complaints whatsoever on this 3-fan system. Also, the inside of the instrument is clean, no dust or spiders, but that's maybe also due to the fact that I keep my little studio clean.
Temperature in the studio (themometer) on a hot day in july: 32 degrees Celsius.
Temperature after boot (Global, fan control) :37 degrees.
Temperature after 1 hour play (many voices karmatic combination): 49 / 50 degrees Celsius. (Global, fan control)
That's it.

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Post by amit »

Nice,
My Kronos 2 runs about 50-60 degrees C here on stock cooler in my A/C Room (24 deg C). (idles around 50-51 C)
while outside it's around 42-48 Celsius on average.
So I am certain kronos will be hot around ambient being 70-90 Celsius.
Not sure if Kronos2 61 has any room but will check when I install a new SSD.
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Have you thought about using a filter on the intake to minimize dust/debris coming into the chassis?
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