Anyone ever read the Kronos guide cover to cover?

Chopin's11th · Post by **Chopin's11th** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:55 pm

New greenhorn here. 41yrs performing/formal training. New Kronos. Sick stomach! What?!? This thing is unreal. I WILL learn it. However, please advise here. Who here has read the huge manual and will vouch for its validity or thorough understanding of the unit post read? I have fallen into the same old trap of playing it for 8-10 hours/day on days off and til late at night all others. Time to learn more than just loading new 3rd party sounds and creating performance banks.
I will learn and share here on the forum, but I WILL also read the manual from cover to cover (study it) should I receive the kind of feedback that endorses its effectiveness.
If you think it a MUST, please let me know. I've had other experiences with non-Korg workstation manuals that seemed to be a poorly translated version of a not so good manual in the first place. Hence, if I get good feedback for this one, I will attack it like my Chem C with a Lab class needed attacking in college: "Thoroughly". And when I am through, and along the way, I vow to share any/all that I learn by answering other's post when I can do so effectively.
Thank you for reading this post. I understand the value of forums, but please give me your thoughts on the Kronos complete manual so I can dive in should it get the reviews I hope it does.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:26 pm

I think it's generally very well written but I don't think it's a "must" for any non-lethal device to read the manual. If you find you're getting stuck a lot I suppose it would be worth it. I won't claim to intimately understand every function or page on the Kronos but I get around it pretty easily and have never read even a chapter of the manual.

It really is well written though, and if you're the kind who likes to read manuals you could go chapter by chapter. I wouldn't recommend trying to read something like that cover to cover and expect to remember everything.

Chopin's11th · Post by **Chopin's11th** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:38 pm

[quote="SanderXpander"]I think it's generally very well written but I don't think it's a "must"....

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, like anything, the "book is there to help like they were in earning my degrees" but in the absence of a teacher so to speak (less this forum as I know you and perhaps many others are most likely far ahead of the game), I wonder if you learned via "hunt and peck" or by just knowing in general how these types of software work? In other words, are you one who can understand about anything/new software on a computer? Shamefully, I am not that good. Additionally I had to look up things like (please don't laugh) what the SSD was for instance. I think my best foot forward besides just making a backup for all the settings now, and going for it afterwards, is to pick out subjects in the book that pertain to my goals and ask questions here on the forums.
Wow, I just answered myself in a logical manner, lol. But really, there are books that are much better than others. Just wanted to know how well this one ranks in comparison before killing myself.

PS: I did read the manual for Cakewalk's Sonar to utilize the software much more efficiently but found the Protools one much more difficult and nowhere near as well laid out. I think I did see a post just yesterday when I joined the forum that the actual author of the Kronus manual is a member here. Lol, maybe he/she could tell me. Lotta work there. Lotta machine this Kronos is!

Chopin's11th · Post by **Chopin's11th** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:45 pm

[quote="SanderXpander"]I think it's generally very well written but I don't think it's a "must" for any non-lethal device to read the manual.
Ya see, lol, it took this lonnnng to finally "get" your humor in "non lethal" device. Funny. Thanks again

voip · Post by **voip** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:21 pm

All of the Korg Kronos manuals are very good, I think, and were written by one of the forum members, Danatkorg. Are you talking about the Operations Guide or the Parameter Guide. The Parameter Guide will probably be your main go-to in the long run, but the Op Guide is useful for getting to grips with the Kronos. I have read neither of them from cover to cover in linear fashion, but have probably covered a fair chunk over the last two or three years, mostly in the following manner. Happily playing away, a thought occurs...I wonder if the Kronos can do this? Press a few buttons, dive through a few menus. If I'm getting nowhere fast, time to consult the oracle(s). Adobe Reader's search can come in very handy when there are nearly 1200 pages of information.

There are also some very helpful videos from Korg on YouTube - search for Korg Kronos Tutorial. The first video can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Xkfi58w6Y

Another forum member, Qui Robinez has also made some very useful videos.

Here's an earlier thread on the subject:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... p?t=103208

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Chopin's11th · Post by **Chopin's11th** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:33 pm

voip wrote:All of the Korg Kronos manuals are very good, I think, and were written by one of the forum members, Danatkorg. Are you talking about...

Another forum member, Qui Robinez has also made some very useful videos.
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Hey there - Thank you very much for that. Perfect outline of what is the same posturing for me during the process of "playing, asking if the Kronos can do this or that etc. Just started on QR video. Wow, what a great example. He seems to assume the viewer having no prior knowledge and really does well even showing "where" to press on the screen. I think as far as "what" manual, I was referring mostly to the manual and not the perimeter guide, though both will seem to come into play. Danatkorg is one of those type that I've only admired for their organizational and cognitive skills with monsters like this. Nice to belong to a forum where the actual author of the manual is active. I appreciate the example of your learning experience again as it does mirror the type of scenario(s) I go through as well. I would like to look back at your response later with a new pair of glasses and a broad understanding. The only way out of this ignorance is through so here goes...
PS: I can tell there are very intelligent individuals here. Will be the adviser someday...

phattbuzz · Post by **phattbuzz** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:52 pm

I downloaded the manual and studied it for about two months before I got my Kronos. That helped a lot in knowing what it's capabilities are and in getting around the system. I also had worked with Korg synths before so I knew the general way that Korg does things.

Chopin's11th · Post by **Chopin's11th** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:33 am

phattbuzz wrote:I downloaded the manual and studied it for about two months before I got my Kronos. That helped a lot in knowing what it's capabilities are and in getting around the system. I also had worked with Korg synths before so I knew the general way that Korg does things.

Yeah, I wondered about that (if having prior Korg experience lent familiarity when diving into the Kronos). It seems it has quite a bit more than what I switched over from (Roland FantomX88). I suppose it's time to learn the Korg language.

Bald Eagle · Post by **Bald Eagle** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:07 am

A good way to get started is to read the introduction of each section in the Operations Guide. You will get a good idea of the many features that are available and will know where to go back and find more information when you need it.

tomto66 · Post by **tomto66** » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:18 pm

I read the whole op guide before buying the Kronos. Took me a month - don't think I remembered anything in particular after reading it, but I found the Kronos easy to nagivate when I did get it, reading the guide was certainly a factor. Well written indeed.

My reason for reading it was cost - Kronos is not cheap and I wanted to be dead sure it would fit my needs. It did.

But to answer your question: it is not a must. There are plenty of Kronos newbies on this forum asking 'stupid' questions for which the answers can easily be found by using the search in an adobe reader - questions forum members are happy to answer without having to call the OP 'stupid'

jg:: · Post by **jg::** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:45 am

Also be aware that almost the entire manual (minus some diagrams) is on-board the Kronos, via the Help button. That's a good way to get instant help for things you get stuck on.

Chopin's11th · Post by **Chopin's11th** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:50 am

jg:: wrote:Also be aware that almost the entire manual (minus some diagrams) is on-board the Kronos, via the Help button. That's a good way to get instant help for things you get stuck on.

Indeed it is. Didn't know that. Saw the "help" of course but didn't think it would be complete like so many other ones out there.

Korggal2015 · Post by **Korggal2015** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:15 am

I attempted to read it through but too obscure. After watching you tube videos and taking a DAW class (using Ableton) then it REALLY made more sense

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:00 am

I downloaded both manuals and read them thoroughly over 4 months while waiting for the Kronos to hit the stores in June 2011.

I had a pretty good understanding of it before I even plugged it in

ed_f · Post by **ed_f** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:26 pm

All the answers are in there. If you sit at the Kronos and try things as you read about them they make sense an you learn a lot.