Petition for Firmware Update for E2 and E2S

[h.vel]

1. Add song mode and pattern chaining

Thanks for adding pattern chaining again. Is there a reason why song mode and pattern chain are just 1 request? A song mode is for making a song and pattern chain is for 8 and 16 bar patterns. 2 different things in 1 request.

[h.vel]

Im new to the forum and dont know if this idea has been brought up but what if instead of 16 parts or tracks there were 64?

This will never happen. In the current state the E2 cuts the voices already if you just just 10 parts (without FX etc.) and you're asking for 64? This is like buying a bicycle and asking the dealer to upgrade it to an aeroplane. I guess we should start with asking Korg for 16 real tracks (11. better voice management).

I went through the list and don't think I saw anything about when sequencing external gear it eats voices. It doesn't seem like it should do that when it's not generating any sounds, right?

I guess this will cover your request:

54. Midi out 'osc' (not set to audio in, just uses the sequencer and cc messages [pad=OFF])
63. MIDI receive/transmit ON/OFF per part

[Cade]

Sorry, I don't get your point. If Korg will implement "streaming samples from SD card" we will have endless sample memory. Then: why Korg should upgrade (the fixed) RAM? And how should Korg manage this, do you want to send your E2 to Korg and they will solder a new RAM (for free)?*

In the event that Korg implemented "streaming samples form SD card", it would be an assumption that the entire memory card could be used for samples (even though it's reasonable). It's not guaranteed that the engineers would enable the entire SD capacity for samples.

*Funny, I don't think Korg would (or could) increase the on-board RAM on this machine, even if it was sent in. *shrug

1. Add song mode and pattern chaining

Thanks for adding pattern chaining again. Is there a reason why song mode and pattern chain are just 1 request? A song mode is for making a song and pattern chain is for 8 and 16 bar patterns. 2 different things in 1 request.

Mainly because I felt it was redundant: (In my opinion, if you have song mode, simply "chain" the patterns you want together using song mode). Clearly there are subtle differences that I am not aware of.
- I added it back, no problem.

h.vel - Thanks for the help and advice.
-- We are just compiling the list here, not voting yet. --
red indicates bug fixes

1. Add song mode
2. Add step record function (step note entry)
3. Add the ability to copy chords and notes in step edit
4. Revise the arpeggiator to include Up/down, random, and scales
5. BPM LFO's parameterized by musical values
6. filter improvements (tracking, better high resolution, etc)
7. faster boot and loading times from SD card
8. MIDI channel choice per part (should allow part layering)
9. per part MFX send level
10. Timeslices to be loopable on the E2S as it was on the ESX with 1/30 of a second being repeated
11. better voice management (even when no fx and no polyphony is activated, just 10-11 tracks can play simultaneously without voice stealing)
12. regulate send level of each trigger to Master FX
13. When Scale and Key mode is selected have it over ride pitch knob edits thus making the pitch knob always in key and in scale
14. For the Sampler; when in time slice edit when you have selected 16 slices or less you should be given access to an additional menu options that gives you the option to set all of these slices as parts in a pattern
15. fix attack bug
16. Shift + MFX Send should show MFX Send for tracks on the pads (like track mute mode)
17. the ability to be able to enter notes or chords in sequencer mode
18. a shift command to hit shift+record to activate motion sequence
19. to be able to assign the X-Y pad to do different things and save that with each Pattern
20. On-board Graphical Sample Editor
21. Fix note cutoff when switching patterns
22. To have the trigger button both temporary by holding it down, and locked by double tapping the button
23. Add the ability for sidechaining
24. Add a timestretch function
25. Improve the step sequencer by using the track pad to enter gate and velocity
26. to be able to tie 2 voices to 1 pad's seq/control
27. streaming samples directly from the SD card (potentially increase sample memory)
28. MIDI local on/off, midi thru
29. a user sound bank selection. The ability to save a "part" as a "sound" to recall for later use on the E2S
30. Pads should blink in Mute mode
31. midi start for event recorder
32. replace the main filter and resonance with the IFX versions
33. a hold feature for the gate arp
34. Gate and step jump sync on and off
35. to easily solo and unsolo one or more tracks
36. Fix glitch/click sound of poly mode and pcm sounds when re-triggering notes
37. Key transpose in sequencer mode
38. to be able to program the mfx all the same for each pattern (or master FX lock)
39. Realtime voice/dsp usage display on screen
40. Fix Noise when audio in is set to thru and power save mode is enabled
41. Revise display screen to display more information (knob values, FX info, etc) - minimum waveform representation on the screen - for quick editing (E2S)
42. Realtime MIDI LFO to pitch, velocity, length value, or motion events
43. increased knob resolution (smoother: pitch/Glide, attack, decay/release, and speed) [less jumping]
44. Export event recordings into .WAV
45. direct access to editing various modifications/parameters of each step
46. follow the playback position on the pads
47. Record with quantize off or alternate quantization
48. Send CC automation values to MIDI out
49. In Mute mode press/hold the Mute button to select tracks/pads
50. Add a preference to control the metronome volume
51. Allow event recorder to sync to a midi clock and allow it to loop
52. Decay and release could be separated (for release press shift)
53. parameter locks (or easier editing of controller values per step)
54. Midi out 'osc' (not set to audio in, just uses the sequencer and cc messages [pad=OFF])
55. Step Edit should support inserting / editing arbitrary cc's
56. addition of an effects trail like on KP3 (this may solve click issues)
57. holding Shift+Part Erase erases EVERYTHING, not just the pad you hold
58. Include both motion sequencing, panning and master effects when exporting pattern parts to .wav files
59. Add UNDO function
60. Add the ability to copy/paste bars/notes around the whole machine
61. Waveform display option (like Minilogue) when sounds are triggered
62. Apply swing and groove values to the events timing
63. MIDI receive/transmit ON/OFF per part
64. Make the step sequence menu circular so you can left arrow from the on / off screen to the velocity screen
65. synced step jump so it stays in time on release
66. display the steps in the Step Jump mode
67. Visual display of scales and chords played on part
68. editable event recorder
69. Change order of time slices
70. combine the keyboard and sequencer mode so specific notes can be entered via the keyboard/pads instead of rotating the data dial
71. make transposing of whole parts easier
72. For the E2 have the step edit for Oscillator edit just like in the ES2
73. add the ability to nudge notes
74. pre listening before loading samples
75. ability to enter MIDI notes via an external MIDI keyboard in the Sequencer mode
76. When changing a parameter the display should show if the current value isn't the original value anymore (like on the EMX/ESX)
77. Record Mute on/off
78. Legato pattern change mode. Be able to change a pattern before the pattern end, the new pattern is not starting from the beginning, the play position continues where the old pattern was switched.
79. per part play speed - allow a single part to be played at half speed / quarter speed or other option
80. Add the ability to loop individual bars
81. Pattern re-arrangement software to make moving of groups of patterns easier
82. Add pattern-chaining

[thesigma]

*Funny, I don't think Korg would (or could) increase the on-board RAM on this machine, even if it was sent in. *shrug

A larger RAM chip(s) would likely need more address lines, which would be more traces on the circuit board. NOT going to happen.

[Z7A]

For the electribe2 to be able to load a file named e2Analog.all containing Analog OSCs created by a VA software editor.

Add all the filters to the electribe sampler.

[Unruly]

Dunno if this idea has been said yet....I would like to have pattern set work differently. Instead of hitting the buttons within the set once and having that trigger the next pattern, Id like a preview mode, where you hit the pad once to display what it is, and then a second tap would activate the pattern. That way you could hunt for patterns more easily without it switching to a pattern you didn't want. The pattern would blink while it waited for the second tap. Kind of like how solo works.

[SMK]

Feature Request | Record All Step Jump Actions

Here's one I don't think I have seen yet. It might take a tone of programming to make work but would be awesome if they did it.

I'm just going to continue from the last number on the current list:

83. All Step Jump actions and changes recorded and reflected in the sequencer in NORMAL record mode.

A lot of times new beats and arpeggio sounding melodies come out of playing with Step Jump. You like what you hear and wish to go with that instead. This feature would really make the E2 and ES2 very inspiring to work with.

[Loudest]

Feature request = the Electribe adventure continues with another manufacturer


(Sorry,
just a bad joke
I just saw the latest firmware update....)

[SMK]

I just remembered another update need, more like a have to. A page to for you to Choose your Velocity setting numerically! Constant 96?!?! How about Const 127!!!

84. Set velocity numerically for each part; 1-127.

[Cade]

Rather than voting in this thread, we will be voting here: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... p?t=104700
-- Final List --
red indicates bug fixes

1. Add song mode
2. Add step record function (step note entry)
3. Add the ability to copy chords and notes in step edit
4. Revise the arpeggiator to include Up/down, random, and scales
5. BPM LFO's parameterized by musical values
6. filter improvements (tracking, better high resolution, etc)
7. faster boot and loading times from SD card
8. MIDI channel choice per part (should allow part layering)
9. per part MFX send level
10. Timeslices to be loopable on the E2S as it was on the ESX with 1/30 of a second being repeated
11. better voice management (even when no fx and no polyphony is activated, just 10-11 tracks can play simultaneously without voice stealing)
12. regulate send level of each trigger to Master FX
13. When Scale and Key mode is selected have it over ride pitch knob edits thus making the pitch knob always in key and in scale
14. For the Sampler; when in time slice edit when you have selected 16 slices or less you should be given access to an additional menu options that gives you the option to set all of these slices as parts in a pattern
15. fix attack bug
16. Shift + MFX Send should show MFX Send for tracks on the pads (like track mute mode)
17. the ability to be able to enter notes or chords in sequencer mode
18. a shift command to hit shift+record to activate motion sequence
19. to be able to assign the X-Y pad to do different things and save that with each Pattern
20. On-board Graphical Sample Editor
21. Fix note cutoff when switching patterns
22. To have the trigger button both temporary by holding it down, and locked by double tapping the button
23. Add the ability for sidechaining
24. Add a timestretch function
25. Improve the step sequencer by using the track pad to enter gate and velocity
26. to be able to tie 2 voices to 1 pad's seq/control
27. streaming samples directly from the SD card (potentially increase sample memory)
28. MIDI local on/off, midi thru
29. a user sound bank selection. The ability to save a "part" as a "sound" to recall for later use on the E2S
30. Pads should blink in Mute mode
31. midi start for event recorder
32. replace the main filter and resonance with the IFX versions
33. a hold feature for the gate arp
34. Gate and step jump sync on and off
35. to easily solo and unsolo one or more tracks
36. Fix glitch/click sound of poly mode and pcm sounds when re-triggering notes
37. Key transpose in sequencer mode
38. to be able to program the mfx all the same for each pattern (or master FX lock)
39. Realtime voice/dsp usage display on screen
40. Fix Noise when audio in is set to thru and power save mode is enabled
41. Revise display screen to display more information (knob values, FX info, etc) - minimum waveform representation on the screen - for quick editing (E2S)
42. Realtime MIDI LFO to pitch, velocity, length value, or motion events
43. increased knob resolution (smoother: pitch/Glide, attack, decay/release, and speed) [less jumping]
44. Export event recordings into .WAV
45. direct access to editing various modifications/parameters of each step
46. follow the playback position on the pads
47. Record with quantize off or alternate quantization
48. Send CC automation values to MIDI out
49. In Mute mode press/hold the Mute button to select tracks/pads
50. Add a preference to control the metronome volume
51. Allow event recorder to sync to a midi clock and allow it to loop
52. Decay and release could be separated (for release press shift)
53. parameter locks (or easier editing of controller values per step)
54. Midi out 'osc' (not set to audio in, just uses the sequencer and cc messages [pad=OFF])
55. Step Edit should support inserting / editing arbitrary cc's
56. addition of an effects trail like on KP3 (this may solve click issues)
57. holding Shift+Part Erase erases EVERYTHING, not just the pad you hold
58. Include both motion sequencing, panning and master effects when exporting pattern parts to .wav files
59. Add UNDO function
60. Add the ability to copy/paste bars/notes around the whole machine
61. Waveform display option (like Minilogue) when sounds are triggered
62. Apply swing and groove values to the events timing
63. MIDI receive/transmit ON/OFF per part
64. Make the step sequence menu circular so you can left arrow from the on / off screen to the velocity screen
65. synced step jump so it stays in time on release
66. display the steps in the Step Jump mode
67. Visual display of scales and chords played on part
68. editable event recorder
69. Change order of time slices
70. combine the keyboard and sequencer mode so specific notes can be entered via the keyboard/pads instead of rotating the data dial
71. make transposing of whole parts easier
72. For the E2 have the step edit for Oscillator edit just like in the ES2
73. add the ability to nudge notes
74. pre listening before loading samples
75. ability to enter MIDI notes via an external MIDI keyboard in the Sequencer mode
76. When changing a parameter the display should show if the current value isn't the original value anymore (like on the EMX/ESX)
77. Record Mute on/off
78. Legato pattern change mode. Be able to change a pattern before the pattern end, the new pattern is not starting from the beginning, the play position continues where the old pattern was switched.
79. per part play speed - allow a single part to be played at half speed / quarter speed or other option
80. Add the ability to loop individual bars
81. Pattern re-arrangement software to make moving of groups of patterns easier
82. Add pattern-chaining
83. All Step Jump actions and changes recorded and reflected in the sequencer in NORMAL record mode
84. Set velocity numerically for each part; 1-127

[sl23]

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[captain johnson]

85. How about korg release an e3 that has all previous requests and combines both sampling and synthesis! f*ck the e2, it's a dead duck!

And I'm case it's not there, I haven't read the list as I think it's futile, longer patterns, no voice stealing, more knobs like on emx1, read samples direct from SD card as Roland do or increase memory at least 10 fold, increase slots from 999 to 9,999, and bring back that matrix editor, that was far better than menu diving!

Price? I think around £700-£800 is fair.

Wowzer! Think we'll be seeing a mark ii more likely than full E3. Im still hoping FW update can sort or utilise the units to the max

[MaartenNl]

Maybe it's already in the list but I can't find it: a while ago someone on this forum had some ideas to use/hold shift for more control on the ifx knob. For example, you have better control on distortion, because now you can only have distortion with high volume. And for delays you can set feedback / timing and/or depth. And reverb in ifx, was that also on the list?

Another suggestion, maybe they can find a way to lower the quality a little bit in exchange for more free cpu power, to get less voice stealing?

[MaartenNl]

Another thing/bug that was not exactly in the list is is problem:
When you are in the menu and then go to key and you want to transpose from c to d, and you turn the cutoff knob, you see the cutoff value on the screen. To transpose, you will have to wait till the cutoff value disappears, because when you turn the key select dial nothing happens. You can use the arrow keys to go back to the key menu, but I think that you can switch key while/or short after you hit the cutoff or any other dial.

[MaartenNl]

Another problem, similar to changing key while turning cutoff is trying to add or lower grove depth while controlling the cutoff knob for example. This is a problem when you want for snare rolls increase cutoff while decreasing the groove depth.