Pa4X Variation Change Issue

For discussion relating to the Korg PA4X arranger

Moderators: Sharp, X-Trade, Pepperpotty, karmathanever

Post Reply
User avatar
hammer
Guest
Posts: 160
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:13 am
Location: Denton, TX Ketron SD7 Tyros 4 Korg PA4X
Contact:

Pa4X Variation Change Issue

Post by hammer »

I have my Pa4X setup so that when I change variations the RH sound changes too. Here is the problem.
The new RH sound is not available until the first beat of the next measure which means any pick-up notes I play after changing variations are played with the old sound and not the new sound. That really sounds bad. On all my other keyboards when I change variations the new sound is available immediately. I have also noticed a slight delay in the new sound after it is available.
Am I missing a setting somewhere or is this a OS bug?

Deane
User avatar
karmathanever
Platinum Member
Posts: 10486
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:07 am

Post by karmathanever »

Hi Deane

You are right!!!

BUT it does work OK if you hit the new VAR (or FILL) in the first half of the measure, then the sound is instantly changed.
I thought this might be linked to "Cue Mode" but I was wrong.

Sorry - can't see a way around this - would be nice if it was instant throughout the "preceding" measure (or even an option like cue mode)

I don't think this is a bug as such as I believe it was the same on my PA3X if my memory serves me right.

However, having said all that I am not experiencing any "delay" in the new sound.

Cheers & sorry!!!!

Pete :D
PA4X-76, Karma, WaveDrum GE, Fantom 8 EX
------------------------------------------------------------------
## Please stay safe ##
...and play lots of music :D
------------------------------------------------------------------
User avatar
Nemik
Approved Merchant
Approved Merchant
Posts: 1741
Joined: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:54 pm
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Contact:

Post by Nemik »

If the both sounds has same FX effects, wet sounds still uncut while you changing, at least what I find out on Pa600.
BTW, wish PA4x has SST (smooth sound transition) like Kronos ... maybe Pa5x will :wink:
Nemik
Korg Kronos2-61, Korg Pa600, Novation UltraNova, Akai Professional MPK49, Akai Professional MPK225 , Alesis QX-49, APC25 Keys, Launchpad MK2, Korg nanoPad2
MOTU Midi Express XT, FCB1010 with UnO, Behringer X2222 USB, TASCAM Model 24 Mixer, Presonus AudioBox96, M-Track Plus
Fl Studio 21, Ableton Live 11 Suite.
Korg Pa5x Sounds at Performers Heaven
User avatar
hammer
Guest
Posts: 160
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:13 am
Location: Denton, TX Ketron SD7 Tyros 4 Korg PA4X
Contact:

Post by hammer »

Thanks Pete,
Maybe Korg will change this in the future.

Deane
User avatar
Uncle Dave
Junior Member
Posts: 98
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:20 am
Location: Philly/NY/Jersey Shore
Contact:

Re: Pa4X Variation Change Issue

Post by Uncle Dave »

[quote="hammer"][b]I have my Pa4X setup so that when I change variations the RH sound changes too. Here is the problem.
The new RH sound is not available until the first beat of the next measure which means any pick-up notes I play after changing variations are played with the old sound and not the new sound. That really sounds bad. On all my other keyboards when I change variations the new sound is available immediately. I have also noticed a slight delay in the new sound after it is available.
Am I missing a setting somewhere or is this a OS bug?

Deane[/b][/quote]

Deane - I remember setting something to say "IMMEDIATE" that related to the transpose and the program change - sorry, I don't remember where I saw it, but it's in there. Maybe that'll help!
SolMan
Posts: 26
Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:34 pm
Location: Casa Grande AZ

Re: Pa4X Variation Change Issue

Post by SolMan »

hammer wrote:I have my Pa4X setup so that when I change variations the RH sound changes too. Here is the problem.
The new RH sound is not available until the first beat of the next measure which means any pick-up notes I play after changing variations are played with the old sound and not the new sound. That really sounds bad. On all my other keyboards when I change variations the new sound is available immediately. I have also noticed a slight delay in the new sound after it is available.
Am I missing a setting somewhere or is this a OS bug?

Deane
I know this is an old post but I think that others may have the same situation and I have a partial solution (two steps instead of the preferred one step)...
If I am playing in VAR 1 and want to move to VAR 2 and the instruments that it will select, but want to use the VAR 2 instruments before the measure change, I press KEYBOARD SET 2 button mid measure (instruments change immediately) and then press VARIATION 2 (accompaniment starts next measure)

Hope that this is a solution and is helpful for others .
Bruce Monte Sr
Casa Grande, AZ
Post Reply

Return to “Korg Pa4X”