E2 - Controlling Different Parts' Parameters Simultaneously

[larvicide]

Hi all,

Is it possible on electribe 2 to change two parts' selected parameters (for example, filter cutoff point of part 1 and insert fx edit parameter of part 2) simultaneously without toggling between parts by "part < >" button? I mean it's very time consuming while performing to toggle between parts and you have to do it by order. If not, can i assign them by an external midi controller? If so how? Is the midi implementation chart is used for this? I couldn't figure it out It looks like an ugly list of numbers and letters and i don't get it unfortunately. For example it's written: " 13 | Filter Cutoff | 0~127 " Does that mean 13th midi channel is used for filter cutoff? If so which part's cutoff?

Unfortunately i don't have a midi controller right know and if i can change different part parameters simultaneously with it then i will buy one. I have a nord rack 2x and i'm using it's knobs to control ableton's instrument parameters sometimes, it can send midi so can i use that to control electribe's parameters also?

Best thing about electribe is that it can function on batteries and if i buy a midi controller i don't want to be in the need of electricity just for it. Can i use electribe's usb connection to power up a midi controller (like nano kontrol) or is there any battery powered midi controller that you can suggest that is not expensive?

Another question is, i know maybe it's too much to ask but, if i can change/automate chosen parameters of the chosen parts then is there a way to change two parameters simultaneously just by one knob like ableton's macro function?

Thank you!

[zakary]

I have the same question,

much has to do with the controller you will use, each knob/pot must me able to send midi CC on different midi channels than the other knobs, on some controllers all knobs send midi CC on the same midi channel.

I have the Evolution UC16 which supports different midi channel for each knob, i'll connect, try it our and let you know, i need this as well.

Also some settings on the Electribe must be made - Midi Receive/Send Filter is OFF, see page 76 of manual the MIDI Implementation Chart, which parameters can be controlled.

[larvicide]

Waiting for the good news

[Sulfur]

Lately I have been thinking of buying a Beringher BCR2000 to do exactly what you want to do. For what I've understood it's pretty much configurable, with a lot of presets and it's possible to assign different midi channels to different knobs too. And there are so many! I don't understand why it seems to be the only model out there (most of the other controllers have faders and just a few knobs -more like mixers- and it's hard to find MIDI din connectors) and it's even discontinued.

Unfortunately for you it's not battery operated, but maybe there could be a way to use external battery pack.

Hi all,
It looks like an ugly list of numbers and letters and i don't get it unfortunately. For example it's written: " 13 | Filter Cutoff | 0~127 " Does that mean 13th midi channel is used for filter cutoff? If so which part's cutoff?

You are looking in the wrong place. I see that you took those numbers from the txt version of the MIDI implementation chart but you're looking to the TABLE 6.
That 13 is the OFFSET but I don't really know what it is. Look at the second-last page of the manual. It's clearer. You have to look for the Control Change number. For example, it's 74 for the Cutoff. So you have to assign that Control Change to the knobs of your controller for any MIDI channel that you want to apply it to. 0-127 is the range of its values. The Behringer should have an automatic learning feature so programming it shouldn't be difficult.

[immon]

Have you considered an iPad control app?


I tried to do what you want with the faderfox LD2 which is battery powered and sends proper midi, but I was unable to program it to my liking.

[larvicide]

Wow i really didn't take iPad into consideration at all! Even i have one

I never used iPad for controlling purposes so do you have any recommendation on which application to use?

I will also need a screen adaptor thing right? I have an old iPad 2 btw.

[zakary]

Wow i really didn't take iPad into consideration at all! Even i have one

I never used iPad for controlling purposes so do you have any recommendation on which application to use?

I will also need a screen adaptor thing right? I have an old iPad 2 btw.

something like http://iosmidi.com/
there are many others as well

you'll need a camera connection kit for your ipad.

[immon]

The official apple camera connection kit device is the one to get because it actually works. Combine that with a cheap USB midi lead (£5) and you will be able to map the ipad to the electribe.

I must say that it while getting everything connected is straight forward I did find it challenging to make the app send controls to different midi Channels. Which is what you need to do to design your own page of electribe controls. YMMV

[zakary]

Slightly off topic but here is a very good video explaining step jump, latch, creating memory mutes etc.

Towards the end it explains how to trigger sequenced parts independently, not muting/unmuting. All the above can be combined, so you jam away, the 4 bar limitation is not an issue

One of the most helpful videos i've found.

https://youtu.be/VNU-IEZFiFc

enjoy

[zakary]

Waiting for the good news

good news ! yes you can do with an external midi controller.

i connected my evolution uc16 midi out to ES2 midi in, programmed some knobs on the uc16 to send midi cc messages to different midi channels on the ES2, knob 1 to send cc 74 (cutoff) on channel 9 playing a kick and knob 2 to send cc 74 on channel 6 playing a pad, recorded on the ES2 these changes, works fine.

keep in mind that you need a controller that allows you to program different midi channels on each knob.

also if it supports saving/recalling differnt knob settings on the fly you can prepare your work so you jam away controlling certain parameters and then flip to change different parameters for each part.

enjoy

[timbeaux]

having the possibility like on the yamaha rm1x to just hold the pads and turn the knob, would be nice!

[larvicide]

Thank you zakary! It's really an important function to have. Btw that video you sent is very inspiring! Totally new ways to create.

Can Korg nanokontrol 2 send different program changes to different midi channels? Anybody knows? Which specifications should i look to buy a controller that has this kind of feature?