Is it Save to install the new V2.0

[ds210]

Hello everybody (':o')


Is it save to install the new software.
Because i read so many things about bugs
I,m a professional player, i play almost ever day for people
what i did i make a new Set and make a Backup

maybe somebody can help me with the real aswer,
I will also the new possibility to try the new sound's and style's and also the KAOSS


Thanks for your aswer

Mister Dirk

[pawlikp100]

Hello everybody (':o')


Is it save to install the new software.
Because i read so many things about bugs
I,m a professional player, i play almost ever day for people
what i did i make a new Set and make a Backup

maybe somebody can help me with the real aswer,
I will also the new possibility to try the new sound's and style's and also the KAOSS


Thanks for your aswer
Mister Dirk

In my humble opinion it is save. If it wouldn't be no one could do this alone. The would be a need to visit in Korg service center.
The only way to convinced about KAOSS features is installing this new OS. Don't be afraid.
It is easy. Everything is carefully described in the update manual.
P.s. I did my update last Saturday when I had all night party. My Korg worked very stable.
The only issue I encouraged was connecting with Searching feature ( different behaviour than I had known it from previous OS systems)
.
Give us some feedback about your decision.
Regards

[DonM]

I did it a few days ago. No problems if you follow the instructions exactly.

[karmathanever]

No problems here

V2 is superb

[redfox]

I'ts safe! Yesterday night I've closed the fourth gig with OS2.0: no bug or crash, simply perfect!
This evening and tomorrow night I've two other gigs, I'm comfortable and confident on this wonderful release.

Good music, Claudio

[AntonySharmman]

I,m a professional player, i play almost ever day for people
what i did i make a new Set and make a Backup
maybe somebody can help me with the real aswer

The only bug that I can confirm at present time is related with MP3 recording , all other seem to work fine and most
of older bugs have been addressed !
The update itself is safe if a UPS is used and any issues that somebody might face will concern his older custom
resources from older PaSeries (where compatibility is not absolute) or external factors like wrong decompressing
and incombatible media !
Dirk it's better to see your scheduled gigs and if you find a free time period to procced in Upgrade.

This update is inevitable else you can never succesfully update to any later OS release because it contains all new
factory sound resources of Pa4X V2 !

Hope this helps

[mstodola]

Everything stable here. I'm enjoying all the changes, and new features. Only problem is I'm getting lost in all the new (and old) styles. This is like getting a new keyboard.
I agree. A UPS and suppressor extension cords are essential in this day and age. Every musician whether at home or especially at a gig should be using them. Today's equipment is very sensitive. There are no transformers (big inductors) at the front end of keyboards anymore. So the slightest hickup in power can cause devastating results. Even the new powered speakers should be protected. Those new powered speakers didn't get lighter just because the new speakers are lighter.

[AntonySharmman]

There are no transformers (big inductors) at the front end of keyboards anymore. So the slightest hickup in power can cause devastating results.

I feel that I have to clarify that and give the chance to all members to learn from this ...

The old generation power supplies with vast transformers of 50/60 Hz , provided this low frequency hum in pre-amp stages ,
had a lot of magnetic flux losses , a lot of weight and the most important , they were very weak to support power stabilization
in power net fluctuation and unstable grid voltage !
The problem with a simple transformer is that it provides exactly the ratio of its winding f.e. 220/12 ration provides 12Volts
from 220V grid , if Grid voltage will drop at 180V then output will be 9,8 Volts and device won't work ...

Unlike , New generation power supplies called Swithing Mode Power supplies (SMPS) that I represent as a designer , can work
from 90 to 400 volt input of any AC waveform , even DC and rectifies any hum , sparkles , noises , RF , providing a pure DC
regulation that never fails , except the case of total interruption of grid power , where a UPS has to support system with a
ST-BY high power battery !
This 10 times lighter techology (because of 100-1000 greater working frequency that restricts winding turns and make
transformer 10 times smaller) , provides huge energy that can move a 200 Hp electric car (70KW Tesla engines) from just 18650
Li-ION batteries, saved our body of carrying heavy self powered loudspeakers , Your iPhone charger is 10 times smaller , also
have saved our bucks , with power efficiency that can reach the 96% (compared to 65 to 75 %) and the whole industry
nowdays is based on them ...

So , Sensitive ? no way ! , weak or poor ? no way ! unreliable ? not a chance ...
It's just the new way of power transformation from 2000 , and all should be grateful for the apply of SMPS
technology in our devices PSU !!!
Remember that you must never confuse cheap/Chinese and real applied technology !

Just for the story

[liongold]

I did the V2 install a couple of days ago...AND I'M LOVIN' IT!!! I probably won't use a bunch of the stuff, but just like a lot of folks say, the whole board seems to have a great , new vibe to it. The VP sounds smoother and tighter, the reaction time to everything just seems better, not to mention that hep new microphone boot page. Even if I'm just imagining a lot of great new improvements that aren't really there...WHO CARES?? If you haven't updated yet, what are you waitin' for... thanks Korg
Liongold

[mstodola]

I understand the magnetic fields that transformers created being involved in the electronics industry for the last 55+ years. I also understand modern switching supplies which I never mentioned!!!

I was just mentioning the benefits and the larger need for a UPS and transient suppression due to modern more sensitive electronics..

To say that today's electronics is not more sensitive to brown outs and black outs is doing a disservice to the many on this blog.

You can run your gear with no protection and good luck, but I definitely won't. I know better.

[ds210]

Hello Everybody


Okay, I've done the update and it's unbelievable how this keyboard can do more. And certainly with the KAOSS function and the new sounds.
I have had some work with the songbook because the favorite were about writing with the new styles.
I myself created a new Set with the new styles and then loaded my own set.
I currently have 2109 registrations.
Since I have a lot of extra styles for certain songs, I've linked the new styles to the songbook

Now I am very pleased.
Even in my eyes this is a new keyboard
To Everyone Of Korg THANK YOU

[AntonySharmman]

There are no transformers (big inductors) at the front end of keyboards anymore.

Your reference about PSU without tranformers = SMPS , FYI PaSeries use SMPS for more than 20 years ,
but in fact switching circuits always use smaller high frequency transformers ...

I understand the magnetic fields that transformers created being involved in the electronics industry for the last 55+ years. I also understand modern switching supplies which I never mentioned!!!
I was just mentioning the benefits and the larger need for a UPS and transient suppression due to modern more sensitive electronics..
To say that today's electronics is not more sensitive to brown outs and black outs is doing a disservice to the many on this blog.
You can run your gear with no protection and good luck, but I definitely won't. I know better.

A SMPS do not need any transient suppression or sine regulation , it rectifies any kind of AC/DC current , hum , noise ,
even a audio frequency current in DC voltage and creates needed secondary voltages in pure hum-less DC voltage ,
in the best ever lossless way !
There are no more sensitive electronics , even static hazard of some components has been eliminated before 20 years !
We might could call "sensitive" only complex software with insufficient development nowadays and not the properly designed electronic devices !

Once upon a time , when a power mosfet transistor was needed for a design , enginear's choices were restricted on
2-3 manufacturer brands , now fakes and clones are available with low cost and horrible technical characteristics , this is actually
the mentioned 'sensitive' that is equal to "component fail" and no UPS in the world can protect it ... so don't blame the technology !
Hope to get what I mean ...

As last , as an electronic engineer & switching designer , let me doubt of what "you know better" , read again what I wrote before
where I've just explained how your pa4X PSU (SMPS) works and when and why a UPS is needed and let others learn about it

Conclusion for all keyboard users : If you didn't get a clue of all above analysis then summary you definitely need a cheap
100W UPS (only) for your PaSeries or any other keyboard under 2 cases :
- When you Update keyboard system or write/copy/paste important files to media !
- When giging in an uncertain grid power environment
Any other case for me , is optional if under stable grid power.

[mstodola]

Thank you for the information which I'm sure very few understood. I in the beginning was only agreeing with you for the need for a UPS, not trying to start a fight. Transformer versus high frequency switching psu seems to be a touchy subject with you. I only meant it as a casual comment., again, agreeing with you for the need for protection. In my county, I would not regard anything as a stable grid. I personally don't think for the average citizen in a average dwelling such a thing is offered unless you create it yourself. And of course the Pa4x does not draw very much power so you need only a small UPS. I never remember saying anyone needed a big one.

Transient suppression (to explain for others) is to stop very very high voltage spikes that are created when brown outs and black outs occur, which all electronic manufactures recommend using and for a very good reason. In this case, the larger capacity the better (the number of joules is usually written on the package where the larger the number the better). If you use a UPS, there is already one in the unit.


Sorry I upset you.
Mitch

[AntonySharmman]

It's OK !!!
Sometimes my main problem is when I spend my time to write something useful for sensitive technology subjects that only
a few people know deeply and I feel like not to be welcomed , that's all !
All of you remember that I try to share my many years applied knowledge in Lab & research simply trying to improve your
knowledge in technology that is applied at keyboards and sound engineering where a lot of nonsense are spread around
internet by half-time "technicians" and amateurs that their knowledge ends at board/PCB replacement !

Thanks for reading

[mstodola]

And I appreciate your input. You are a very knowledgeable and wanted person to this blog. I have learned much from you.

Thank you
Mitch