LOST SOUNDS (erased??)

[agathiava]

Hey everyone.

I was trying to load an external sample on my kronos and I really don't know what I did there but somehow a lot of programs don't make any sound now.
Some of my set lists are gone too, but the main problem is that for example, the first piano sounds are still there to select , but don't maky any sound. and whichever of those non-sounding samples I have used in a setlist, shows the message 'samples not loaded' (which is how I realized I must have done something awful in the first place.)

Where could those sounds be? Do I have to restore the factory settings?

[GregC]

Kronos lesson 1: Always back up your work esp BEFORE you start loading samples and/or 3rd party samples.

I assume you would like your Programs/Combis back.

Since you haven't backed up, go to DISK. See Factory. Open it.
Load the KSC file

Your Set List work will be gone , from what I read

[Sweat]

You probably loaded an entire pcg file, thereby overwriting many existing program banks and set lists.

If you did not make a backup of your own programs with Save All or Save PCG, that may be lost. But factory presets can be restored with Preload.pcg.

In the future when loading programs, you can specify bank locations without overwriting others.

[agathiava]

I did choose a location (an empty one) and I did back up this morning before I tried to do anything. I tried to load the back up but it's still the same. That's why I am very confused about all this! Is there a way I can keep anything of what I've created before restoring?

[agathiava]

It turns out the backup did work. It probably needed that restart. thanks for replying though !

[christurbis]

I am experience what seems to be this exact scenario on my brand spanking new Kronos 3 61 key.
I did indeed sample a few small sounds and I followed the Auto Load instructions from the Manual.
Don't know if I overwrote something, but why on earth would KORG make that a possibility?
This is my first Kronos. I have 6 Extremes and have been a die hard fan of them since I got my first one 20 years or so ago.

Secondly, Im used to being able to load my entire keyboard onto my CF Flash Card, putting it in my pocket, getting on a plane,
getting to the show where I've got an awaiting Extreme and popping the CF Flash Card into the slot and loading up my sounds all in a matter of less than a minute.

I know I should be familiar with the process of how to back my new Kronos up, but Im not. I long for the ease of the Extreme.
Can someone tell me, is there a simple and easy process to back my Kronos up?

Lastly, and back to my reason for this reply.
I've lost all of my piano sounds on my new Kronos. I followed the instructions above and in the DISK mode, went to Load KSC files.
That did not help. My piano sounds are gone and now Ive lost my Set Lists that I created along with the Combi's I programmed to send into the Set Lists.

I imagine I need to go to the drastic measures here and do a complete restore.
Anyone have any other things I could try first?

Thanks much in advance.
Chris

[christurbis]

I am experience what seems to be this exact scenario on my brand spanking new Kronos 3 61 key.
I did indeed sample a few small sounds and I followed the Auto Load instructions from the Manual.
Don't know if I overwrote something, but why on earth would KORG make that a possibility?
This is my first Kronos. I have 6 Extremes and have been a die hard fan of them since I got my first one 20 years or so ago.

Secondly, Im used to being able to load my entire keyboard onto my CF Flash Card, putting it in my pocket, getting on a plane,
getting to the show where I've got an awaiting Extreme and popping the CF Flash Card into the slot and loading up my sounds all in a matter of less than a minute.

I know I should be familiar with the process of how to back my new Kronos up, but Im not. I long for the ease of the Extreme.
Can someone tell me, is there a simple and easy process to back my Kronos up?

Lastly, and back to my reason for this reply.
I've lost all of my piano sounds on my new Kronos. I followed the instructions above and in the DISK mode, went to Load KSC files.
That did not help. My piano sounds are gone and now Ive lost my Set Lists that I created along with the Combi's I programmed to send into the Set Lists.

I imagine I need to go to the drastic measures here and do a complete restore.
Anyone have any other things I could try first?

Thanks much in advance.
Chris

[voip]

There is a section in the Kronos Operations Guide that deals with restoring the original preload sounds. The section, entitled "Restoring the factory settings" starts on page 285. A complete restore should not be necessary.

Good luck.

There are a whole host of video tutorials linked to from the Korg support website.

The video that covers Sampling is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaRY7SvVTZU

Other videos and resources can be found here. These are for the Kronos 2 (also known as the Kronos (2014)) The Kronos 3 support page is not yet as extensive as that for the Kronos 2. Allow a good few seconds for the page to fully load

https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/product/0/424/

Backing up the Kronos is relatively straightforward, and is detailed in the Operations Guide, page 195, in the section entitled "Saving data". The Save dialogue box accessed in the Global menus has a number of options. The Operations Guide explains how to select the data to be saved, and which data needs to be saved, depending on the scenario. It's a good idea to save the data backup files to a backup directory on the Kronos hard drive, and then to copy the files to an external drive e.g. USB thumb drive, using the Disk menus in Global mode. An alternative method is to use a USB to Ethernet adapter, and use FTP to copy the files to a computer. The only issue with this approach is that the Kronos is quite fussy about the USB to Ethernet adapters that it will work with, owing to the limited set of drivers that come with the OS.

It is possible to transport your sounds data to a different Kronos, using a USB thumb drive. Using the stock Preload sounds should not cause any problems, but the recipient Kronos will need to have any required Expansion libraries to be installed and authorised, if these are used by the transferred PCG file. The contents of the directory containing the sound data on the USB thumb drive will need to be copied to the hard drive of the recipient Kronos, since sampled sounds need to be present on the Kronos hard drive in order to play correctly.

The Kronos is a somewhat more complex beast than the Triton Extreme, so the procedures are a bit more involved.

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[christurbis]

Thank you voip.
I will go on all of this.
I asked KORG for a physical manual but they said it didnt exist.
PDF only.
Are you aware of a hard copy?

PS-In regards to traveling with thumb drive loaded with KRONOS sounds and info.
How would I spec the needs of the destination KRONOS to make sure it had what was needed to successfully load my data onto it?

I certainly understand the Kronos being so far past the Extreme in technology, but the Extreme having the ease of a quick save onto the CF Card and then a quick load at destination is and will always be very attractive. I hope I can get to that type of ease sooner than later with the Kronos.
The Extreme is getting harder and harder to spec on backline.

Thank you in advance.
Chris Turbis

[KK]

If you don't mind carrying a brick thick as the Tokyo phonebook, you could print the parameter guide (1189 pages) and/or the operation guide (305 pages). It's better to simply print the pages you will need most often.

The Kronos implies several backup aspects to keep in mind.

1) Save All - do it often. It creates amongst other things a PCG file of your custom current Programs, Combi and Global parameters.

2) Save Sampling Data - do it every time you create your own samples/multisamples. This data is totally different than the PCG stuff mentioned above.

3) If you use any Korg or third-party multisample libraries on your Kronos that were unlocked with authorization codes (like most EXS libraries you can buy on Korg shop site), they will only work on another Kronos if they exist on it as well.

[BlackForest]

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Thank you in advance.
Chris Turbis

There is a number of good tutorials hidden here and there, have a look, maybe they help you along the way?

https://www.narfsounds.com/post/korg-kr ... PtvIdK0Tj8

viewtopic.php?t=93039

https://www.kidnepro.com/blog/korg-kron ... h-samples/