Can we upgrade the RAM and add a second SSD?

omkar.sunkersett · Post by **omkar.sunkersett** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:03 am

Hello,

The Korg Nautilus has 2GB of RAM and a 60GB SSD.

Can we upgrade the RAM to 4GB and add a second SSD like the Korg Kronos 2?

Thank you

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voip · Post by **voip** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:36 am

The OS is 32 bit and the Nautilus has 3GB RAM, the maximum available for 32 bit systems, of which 1GB is used by the operating system and sample data copied from the "ROM" or the SSD, basically, leaving 2GB to use for sampling etc. Can't comment specifically about adding a second SSD, but the ability to do so is highly likely and, at the very least, it should be possible to clone the 60GB drive onto a larger SSD and use that as the main drive.

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Musicwithharry · Post by **Musicwithharry** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:21 pm

I watched most of Luke's video (from Korg) about the Nautilus, and IIRC, Luke said that they took the second drive bay out of the Nautilus so it may be that it can only support one SSD in there. If that is indeed true, then the only option, I think, would be to replace the existing SSD with a new and bigger one.

Grace,
Harry

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:12 pm

Its unfortunate Korg went with a small-ish 57 GB SSD. Esp given all the high quality 3rd party libs

I also am concerned höw Korg sealed/attached the bottom hatch or cover.

My FA chassis, for example, was sealed up with no access to internals.

matro · Post by **matro** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:59 pm

Not that hard to fix. I boot both my Kronos (original & Kronos 2) from 256GB drives.
How to:
- Remove original drive
- Clone
- Expand the user partition(s)
- Install the new drive
- Boot

Kronos are not sealed, but I wouldn't update before the warranty runs out.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:54 pm

Rather than guess about Nautilus internals and access, I questioned Korg support

Lets see what they say

pranaearth · Post by **pranaearth** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:39 am

I thought they said in one of the videos that there isn't an option for a second SSD

voip · Post by **voip** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:32 am

Hmm. That could be a bit restricting on sample libraries, expansion packs and the like.

In keyboards of this size, there's bound to be space available, sufficient to squeeze another drive in somewhere, even if it's not specifically into a dedicated drive bay, provided there is a free drive connector on the motherboard.

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highlandstudio91 · Post by **highlandstudio91** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:05 am

For me personally....I do not wish to fuss over adding too many new sample libraries(as I have done so on my PC and much to my detriment.)
I have found that bloating your system with an overwhelming amount of sound options just kills creativity.
I desperately want to get away from my PC workstation and just limit myself to what the Nautilus has to offer,just from the factory.
Having limitations,forces one to seek innovative methods for producing new sounds,by way of milking what you have to work with...thereby bolstering creativity.
The Nautilus has so much to offer right out of the gate,that it will probably several months before I even think about adding any new sample libraries to the Nautilus(when I buy one.)
All I ever wanted,was a happy medium,between the Krome & the Kronos & the Nautilus is just the ticket & then some.
I bought a Krome EX nearly a year ago & the only good thing about it,is that Korg finally fixed the defective OS problem(or I should say,the piss-poor SD memory on the motherboard.)

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:14 am

GregC wrote:Rather than guess about Nautilus internals and access, I questioned Korg support

Lets see what they say

Its been 3 days, no reply from Korg Support.

I tried 1 more time on email.

Usually, when Support does not or cannot answer , they simply don't know/can't get an answer from a Korg product specialist.

I would watch for YouTube interviews with a Korg Product Specialist.

I expect they will get questioned on the Nautilus internals and SSD expansion/replacement.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:44 pm

Hi Greg,

The speed of the SSD drive is very crucial for the Nautilus and we tested only the one currently used. Therefore we, do not know if other SSDs will work and therefore, do not support replacing the SSD drive which can cause issues.

Best regards,

Product Support
KORG USA Inc.

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:56 pm

Fair enough, that’s totally expected of KORG to say that.

That being said, the likely hood of such an upgrade working is pretty much a guarantee so long as you have the right tools to clone all the partitions from the old drive to the new one, and you know how to extend the main partition on the drive to make use of it’s extra storage after the clone. Something like a Samsung 870 QVO with a read speed of 560MB/s would be a good choice.

Beyond that, there’s the installation of the drive and whatever grief comes with that.

Easy enough for someone well used to working with computers but difficult for average user. A document or video with steps would need to be prepared for them with full step by step instructions.

In the end, it maybe far easier to just install a second drive. Even if there is no mount for one, it’s easy to design and 3D print one. Don’t have a 3D printer, no problem, just upload the file to one of the many online services that will print it out for you and post it to you. Long story short, if your motivated enough, it's totally doable.

Regards
Sharp.

kronoSphere · Post by **kronoSphere** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:06 am

I was really ready to buy the Nautilus .
But reading that its OS is 32bit. No I won't.
Still hoping for an hypothetic and famous Kronos 3
Yellow like the submarine and with a name : SUN !

Post by **Sharp** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:28 pm

Best investment ever for my personal sample library was a Raspberry Pi4 with a tiny screen all fitting inside a case that’s half the size of a mobile phone and about 1.5 inches thick. Runs any LV2 synth so I run LinuxSampler on it and currently have about 100GB of sounds loaded into it. I’ve actually built quite a few of theses in the last few months. 2 more for me, and probably 10 more so far for friends.

One for a midi controller I have, one for my KRONOS and one for my Wavestate. Would be a nice addition too for anyone with a Nautilus or any keyboard. You can never have enough sounds, or toys

Regards
Sharp.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:08 pm

Sharp wrote:Fair enough, that’s totally expected of KORG to say that.

That being said, the likely hood of such an upgrade working is pretty much a guarantee so long as you have the right tools to clone all the partitions from the old drive to the new one, and you know how to extend the main partition on the drive to make use of it’s extra storage after the clone. Something like a Samsung 870 QVO with a read speed of 560MB/s would be a good choice.

Beyond that, there’s the installation of the drive and whatever grief comes with that.

Easy enough for someone well used to working with computers but difficult for average user. A document or video with steps would need to be prepared for them with full step by step instructions.

In the end, it maybe far easier to just install a second drive. Even if there is no mount for one, it’s easy to design and 3D print one. Don’t have a 3D printer, no problem, just upload the file to one of the many online services that will print it out for you and post it to you. Long story short, if your motivated enough, it's totally doable.

Regards
Sharp.

Hi James, I am a critic of Korg communication or what we can expect of " KorgSpeak ".

Korgs descision on 57 GB SSD is short sighted. There is little diff in cost to having a 120 GB SSD.

Their ' speed " remark is a deflection from my main point. Its easy to find a 120 GB SSD with stable speed.

Secondly, Korg USA avoided my query about how accessible Nautilus is for any user SSD upgrade/replacement.

I don't assume its as 'easy " as the Kronos 2. For Kronos 1 , the replacement process was average in difficulty.

Its possible Korg likely does not want Nautilus owners to open their Nautilus.

Hopefully, a Korg product specialist will be more forthcoming with this basic storage question.