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Maybe today I will say goodbye to KORG.

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Today at 17h (EU) yamaha will instroduce Genos 2. I like KORG of course, but I am disappointed with pa5x OS and I was waiting more from KORG new features of new technology, but with many problems more than 18 months.

Anyway, its ok, new OS, some new sounds, more fx, etc, I am disappointed with KORG TEAM, becuase they dont care anymore for us, it looks like one (lazy) person is working to fix OS and solving problems, after 18 months there is not any stable version.

Actually, 1.2 is 0.9 beta version for me. Its still in test mode, and we are testing and reporting bugs to KORG by buying the keyboard for 4300€ and losing a lot of money by reducing gigs.


Today, Yamaha is introducing Genos 2, if 10% I like it more than pa5x, I will buy Genos 2 and say bye to Korg.

I hope Korg will surpise us today :) last chance
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I think what would help is if Korg outlined WHAT they were working on for the OS release. Not necessarily a release date, just what will be in it,
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pax-eterna.1 wrote:I think what would help is if Korg outlined WHAT they were working on for the OS release. Not necessarily a release date, just what will be in it,
No information from KORG, not at all.... like they are ignoring us. It would be good to have one person from KORG here as a member of forum.
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After seeing the Genos 2 Demos, do you still want to leave the Pa5x? :lol:

not sure...
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Just to chime in here...

I will repeat my sentiments from a previous thread...

"Genos2 looks to be a very nice keyboard...

Did Genos2 make me want to jump out the back of a Hercules airplane to get to it like the new Montage M8x did? No, not really...

My thoughts...... Korg can breathe a little now, but no resting on one's laurels as their is much work to be done (or has almost been done as December approaches) as a window of opportunity is clearly still open for Korg when I consider Genos2...

I hope Korg don't waste it.

P.s. Will I still try one......of course I will, but I don't need to jump out the back of a Hercules to do so now".
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Genos will have something like NEXT, that’s what I heard from a very YAMAHA guy that knows people behind it!
Also the new montage will have something huge next summer.

About G2, I like it, it’s not bad, what we need is more open system
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Asena wrote: Also the new montage will have something huge next summer.
If true? Seems logical these days, then (((( Fantastic )))) Yamaha has a great product with the Montage M series (specifically M8x in my case)
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jozepepa wrote:After seeing the Genos 2 Demos, do you still want to leave the Pa5x? :lol:

not sure...
Fully agree. I was not impressed at all. I think people would be making a big mistake. I also have a Genos1, I was contemplating upgrading that but it's going nowhere now.
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Re: Today, I say goodbye to KORG.

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Bescki wrote:
Today, Yamaha is introducing Genos 2, if 10% I like it more than pa5x, I will buy Genos 2 and say bye to Korg.

I hope Korg will surpise us today :) last chance
Topic: 'Today, I say goodbye to KORG.'

Today I pulled the plunge and ordered Pa5X-76. :D
Not because I think G2 is a bad arranger in any way, it's probaly great and the best arranger Yamaha has created till now, also soundwise.
But, my G1 serves me well, and I think the combination G1 & Pa5x will give me new challenges and more value for the money for now.
Later sometime, the G1 may be swapped for a G2 (or G3) ... if i'm still up on the earths surface by then. 8)
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Post by Bescki »

I am disappointed with pa5x, but there is a hope for updates. But Genos 2 is totally worthless.
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Post by the_boss81 »

Let's prove that Korg made the Pa5 almost from the ground up.... Judging only on the basis of a few missing features.... (OK, maybe I would speak differently if I needed them). But you see what Yamaha did - a soft update could make a G1 into a G2. And I don't think a soft updade could do with a Pa4 a Pa5 ;) ;) ;)
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Post by Jimster »

I'm not impressed much with the new genos 2 after 5 years in the making I have the genos 1 and the korg pa5x quit happy although I really wish korg would sort out the bugs one problem with the korg is one of the midifiles I have the problem is the left hand voice disables when you play the midifile however when you stop the midifile the left hand voice comes back on has any one else encountered this problem
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PA4 > PA5 user

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Dear all, (edited version)

After a 20 very happy years with Pa1 - Pa4x - easy to use, never any problems - I decided to buy a Pa5X.

Initially disappointed with V1.0 etc, I've now had a couple of weeks with the new update v1.3.1. I must say I'm impressed, especially with the Kaos and Matrix update. Despite having to reload everything of value from my Pa1x and Pa4 days, I've ended up with a really decent arranger.

I'm sure this is due to
a) These new features
b) The bug fixes
c) And (not least) to my renewed interest in the keyboard and a much deeper dive into its features.

There are still some niggles of course, but if 1.3 upgrade is a guide, then by the time we get to V2 and poss V3 (NEXT!) this could be a cracker.

So yes, my opinion of V1.3 PA5X is now reprieved. (And I may now be able to part with my PA4X)

Tavro
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Re: PA4 > PA5 user

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tavro wrote:Dear all,

After a 20 very happy years with Pa1 - Pa4x - easy to use, never any problems - I decided to buy a Pa5X.

Disappointed is too small a word !

I can see what they've tried to do, and in some cases there are improvements. However, there is none of the musicality that blessed the Pa1x pro > Pa4x *.
.........
Anyone wanting an arranger keyboard, buy any of Korg's previous models on ebay, not this turkey.

Tavro

*PS I understand Korg's earlier models were developed in Italy. Currently, a valiant arranger keyboard competitor is Ketron and the Event. Based in Italy. Coincidence? Worth exploring? Probably! However, you have more chance of finding pink unicorn s**t, than a dealer that keeps both in stock.
Now you have left all of us confused. In the beginning, you say, I'm happy buying the Korg PA5X and then you rant about all the problems; and finally, you conclude with advice to buy a used Korg previous model.

I really did not understand the point you were trying to make here.
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