How do you setup your Kronos to your DAW via USB?

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blazerunner
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How do you setup your Kronos to your DAW via USB?

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I've been fumbling around with trying to figure out the best way to get my songs out my sequencer and into my DAW (Protools 12). I have an Apollo Solo and I tried it the old fashioned way of audio out from the Kronos into the Apollo and into Protools. It's somewhat of a disaster as the audio out this way doesn't sound the same as it does originally in the Kronos. Things don't seem to stay where I sat them in the Kronos mix and it the audio sound rather all over the place.

Is it better to use the Kronos USB itself and skip the Apollo Solo altogether and feed the audio directly into Protools using the Kronos as an interface? Would that keep the mix I did in the Kronos intact? Is it maybe the Apollo Solo? was that the right interface for something like this?

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In my case, I always record in real time using the Kronos USB B. No additional link in the chain. Sounds just fine every time.
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blazerunner - as I understand it, you have set volume levels, panorama and effects on individual tracks in Kronos. When copying the signal to a DAW as an audio track, you can keep the signal level and effects of the audio track, but you have to set the panorama separately for each track. Additionally, pay attention to whether you are copying the tracks in mono or stereo - e.g. a bass track, which if copied in stereo and spread out in panorama will completely change its sound and place in the mix.
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It is far better to record each track of your kronos song separately into your ProTools.
And I will also suggest to you to record each track of your song without any effect of the Kronos.
Why ? : Because all the internal Kronos effects can be better reproduced by your ProTools DAW
Then you will have always the possibility to change or make new mixes of your song
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Re: How do you setup your Kronos to your DAW via USB?

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blazerunner wrote: I have an Apollo Solo and I tried it the old fashioned way of audio out from the Kronos into the Apollo and into Protools. It's somewhat of a disaster as the audio out this way doesn't sound the same as it does originally in the Kronos. Things don't seem to stay where I sat them in the Kronos mix and it the audio sound rather all over the place.
I have an Apollo Twin, and the Apollos are overkill for tracking into a DAW with the Kronos. Simplest approach is to use the USB audio interface.

I use the Kronos as a fancy sound generator, and I render each track separately through USB and then mix in Logic with the Apollo. But just for recording individual tracks, USB is the way.

But I find interesting the results you are mentioning, it should work! Perhaps you have some UAD plugins loaded into your Apollo so the sound gets distorted? Are you using software monitoring in your DAW? Routing can get tricky in this case if the DAW output goes to the Kronos input and thus the output of the Kronos (which is what the DAW records) is doubled.
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Post by CliveJ »

Much in agreement with fomalhaut as that’s the way I work, albeit with Cubase rather than ProTools.
One gotcha to watch out for is that the Kronos USB output will go through the Master FX, which can be interesting if you have delay or reverb effects there, as they can muddy the mix or “fight” each other if you record individual tracks. Better to disable MFX, record dry, and add them back in later.
Now let’s think of a reason why it CAN be done...
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