Horrific portamento

[daddy]

Honestly, I don't believe Korg is capable of solving this problem. And they don't seem willing to either!

[daddy]

Will the portamento be fixed on OS1.4?

[fatih89]

Will the portamento be fixed on OS1.4?

According to Korg there is and never was a problem with the portamento. It's actually a selling feature and gives the Pa series its unique sound.

[daddy]

Will the portamento be fixed on OS1.4?

According to Korg there is and never was a problem with the portamento. It's actually a selling feature and gives the Pa series its unique sound.

This is nonsense. If Korg fixed this terrible portamento, it would decrease sales for the Kronos and Nautilus in the Middle East and the Balkans. This is the real reason.

[Vangelismusic]

I had almost every Korg PA arranger from the PA800 and on and this is first time I am hearing about bad portamento on them, because sometimes you have to adjust the attack parameters to get it just right to individual taste, now a feature that should be added is to be able to assign it to a switch to either latch or temporary on and off just like all the synths that they have, I don't know about Juzi sound portamento but the best portamento on arranger keyboards to date is the Yamaha GENOS 2 and Yamaha PSR-A5000 period.

[daddy]

I don't know what kind of music you play and how much you use portamento, but for Middle Eastern and Balkan music it's very important, so I know what I'm saying. Read more on the forum and you'll see how many people are dissatisfied. And for a long time.

[AntonySharmman]

Samples Portamento in Pa5X is very advanced compared with outdated Korg Triton & Kronos especially
for ethnic & Balkan genre of analog modeling , but it requires knowledge of how to setup Up/Down
legato DNC2 engine in parallel , it's more convenient and can also have polyphonic properties.
The age of test and trial in analog modeling is over with real samples , nowadays only advanced sound
development and design knowledge of all multiple sound engine parameters is mostly required.

All users demand for years hardware keyboards to follow modern VST production technology and when that happens
they still complain for the apposite ...
For more than 25 years portamento garbage has been discontinued in VST samplers with it's fake properties of over-pitching
samples of acoustic instruments , they use exclusive legato samples for legato spaces that musicians plays on keybed ,
this is feasible anymore in Pa5X using DNC2 engine to overcome this fake over-pitching phenomenon using real samples
of legato Ethnic instruments.
Skilled sound developers can learn of how to achieve that , WavesArt use this technique for more than 10 years.


Hope this helps

[daddy]

I just want the same portamento as the Kronos.

[fatih89]

Samples Portamento in Pa5X is very advanced compared with outdated Korg Triton & Kronos especially
for ethnic & Balkan genre of analog modeling , but it requires knowledge of how to setup Up/Down
legato DNC2 engine in parallel , it's more convenient and can also have polyphonic properties.
The age of test and trial in analog modeling is over with real samples , nowadays only advanced sound
development and design knowledge of all multiple sound engine parameters is mostly required.

All users demand for years hardware keyboards to follow modern VST production technology and when that happens
they still complain for the apposite ...
For more than 25 years portamento garbage has been discontinued in VST samplers with it's fake properties of over-pitching
samples of acoustic instruments , they use exclusive legato samples for legato spaces that musicians plays on keybed ,
this is feasible anymore in Pa5X using DNC2 engine to overcome this fake over-pitching phenomenon using real samples
of legato Ethnic instruments.
Skilled sound developers can learn of how to achieve that , WavesArt use this technique for more than 10 years.


Hope this helps

Again you are trying to be a smart$$ but have no idea what the problem is about. In the Pa Series you can NOT program the sounds using the trigger functions (Legato, Legato Up, Legato Down, Snd Ctrl *) to assign sampled-portamento and sampled-legato multisamples with respect to how these "kind of musicians" play. I could write a whole dissertation about this topic. But since I know you are obviously just trying to provoke and disrespecting the opinions and experience of a lot of musicians and sound-programmers around the world by (among other things) ignoring the simple fact, that the portamento implementation in the Pa series is absolute garbage, although great sounding and flexible open source implementations exist, I don't bother.

Will the portamento be fixed on OS1.4?

According to Korg there is and never was a problem with the portamento. It's actually a selling feature and gives the Pa series its unique sound.

This is nonsense. If Korg fixed this terrible portamento, it would decrease sales for the Kronos and Nautilus in the Middle East and the Balkans. This is the real reason.

That was sarcasm.

[AntonySharmman]

Again you are trying to be a smart$$ but have no idea what the problem is about

Yep and you're an idiot and totally ignored ... dismissed !
Answer was for daddy

[daddy]

I see they „fixed” the issue with OS 1.4 like before! They ignored it!

[taki]

I don't know what kind of music you play and how much you use portamento, but for Middle Eastern and Balkan music it's very important, so I know what I'm saying. Read more on the forum and you'll see how many people are dissatisfied. And for a long time.

You are 100% correct.... and Greek/Turkish music too... most 'western' style musicians from whatever genre, do not understand this very well.. it is a total different style of playing... using the portamento with the pitch bender or finger slider...

Takis

[fatih89]

Again you are trying to be a smart$$ but have no idea what the problem is about

Yep and you're an idiot and totally ignored ... dismissed !
Answer was for daddy

Yeah, I am the idiot who want's Korg to implement a solution for a problem that was already solved decates ago and calling you out for talking bullshit.

...of legato Ethnic instruments.
Skilled sound developers can learn of how to achieve that , WavesArt use this technique for more than 10 years.

I have watched your videos. In NONE of them you are showing that (and how) you "solved" this issue using Pa series function.

Among a lot of other things, that do not necessarily have anything to do with music, I am programming sounds for keyboards and plugins for 20 years. Some of them use samples-portamento for up to 1 octave, i.e. every single note transition up/down is sampled up to 12 notes and also programmed in a special way for dynamic adaptation such as speed, expression, aftertouch, maqam etc.
I know what the Pa series is capable of and also use the functions for triggering sampled-portamento and - legato in my custom sounds. I / We do not ask for programming capabilities of for example NI Kontakt. We ask for a FKN proper portamento implementation, which must have at least sample crossfade and sample-offset (which is still NOT possible for custom samples). A smaller pitch update interval would be great, but not a must (as suggested by Juzisound).

It is not possible to program sounds on the Pa series to fulfil the requirements of such musicians. Not a single musician I know personally - and most of them use Korg for other reasons - is satisfied with the portamento / programming limitations. In fact, about half of them I know of use samplers like Juzisound (which has other massive limitations) and control the sounds using their Korg Pa, mainly because of how the portamento sounds.

Instead of calling others "idiots" and claiming you already solved this issue, proof it and I will take my words back, apologize, buy your sounds and make free promotion videos.

Until then, you are a Clown in my eyes who tries to look like a professional by using buzz words and long contentless texts just for the purpose to promote your own sounds.

Btw., as a friendly reminder: you should update and work on your website.

[AntonySharmman]

Yeah, I am the idiot who want's Korg to implement a solution for a problem that was already solved decates ago and calling you out for talking bullshit.

For once again you're invisible ... dismissed
Not even read your bullshits , my time is valuable ...

[fatih89]

Yeah, I am the idiot who want's Korg to implement a solution for a problem that was already solved decates ago and calling you out for talking bullshit.

For once again you're invisible ... dismissed
Not even read your bullshits , my time is valuable ...

If your time is that valuable, then why are you even quoting me and taking your remaining life time promoting your own garbage sounds on this forum? You have not any argument against me or the musicians who asking for a proper portamento implementation in the Pa series. Instead you are difaming them. Man, there exist OPEN SOURCE codes for example for NI Kontakt with a highly advanced implementation / lot of functions. Stop stickig your head up to KORG's G.

You wrote yourself, that you are using Pa series techniques (samples-portamento) in such a way, that it makes pitched portamento obsolete, especially that one, that WE are asking for (something comparable like Juzisounds portamento). I am not even asking for the sound file, in which you used your magic highly peofessional skills. Proof it and I will send you 1000€. And stop talking s**t. Holy fn sht. What a Clown.