Kronos feedback.

[bax]

Yeah, I certainly have babied my O as well, but as an IT guy myself I just know how things go... I wish I had the same amount of confidence in the O hardware as I do in my Kurzweil K2600

[vEddY]

Yeah, I certainly have babied my O as well, but as an IT guy myself I just know how things go... I wish I had the same amount of confidence in the O hardware as I do in my Kurzweil K2600

Just bought PC3K8 a couple of weeks ago I was actually thinking about doing the unthinkable and try to program my M3-M to get sounds as close as possible to the O. I could pull that off, if it weren't for the fact that M3 doesn't have Legacy collection inside I use those sounds a LOT...

[burningbusch]

The SGX-1 screen does not seem to have a parameter setting for stretch and standard tuning. Could those possibly be found in the different piano types (32 or more)?

Busch.

[bax]

Just bought PC3K8 a couple of weeks ago

Sweet! Been thinking about it ever since I heard about it, but I have decided (well, my budget has decided) to hold off until their next gen finally rears its head. I have a feeling that it will elicit the same kind of response as the OASYS did when it came to be... I expect it to be pretty amazing, and I'm almost glad I can't really afford to get a PC3K right now. I love Kurzweil, and between that and the O, I really figure you can't go wrong!

[EvilDragon]

PC3K8 is one immensly powerful synthesizer. I know it, I have one, too!


Kronos 61 will be a nice company to it... one day.

[danatkorg]

The SGX-1 screen does not seem to have a parameter setting for stretch and standard tuning. Could those possibly be found in the different piano types (32 or more)?

Busch.

There are two different ways to get stretch tuning with the SGX-1.

First, all EXi Programs have a scale parameter, which includes a Stretch Tuning setting. (HD-1 Programs have this, too.)

Second - your guess was correct! There are a few Piano Types which include the specific tunings of the original pianos, which are matched to the piano's specific overtones and the tuner's taste. These are a little more "stretched" than the standard stretch table.

[GORDO]

Sharp,

I was somewhat surprised at your statement which I paraphrase as " take the Kronus for the value it is now and don't worry about tomorrow as we don't know what that may be". I am a proud Oasys owner and am also and electrical engineer in the network field. I can sort of understand the "marketing slant" to the idea of not even mentioning the Oasys as the precursor to the fabulous technology contained in the Kronus. The problem though that I see and that I feel the Korg marketing folks have really miscalculated by ignoring the Oasys. Basically it is said that you really cannot look forward if you don't acknowledge the past. The market is different now in all fields. People today want long lasting value because people don't want to throw money around as before. People "expect" upgradeability and long term product commitment from vendors. It applies everywhere these days and before we commit to vendors and products for as good as they are. Synthesizers evolved from a modular origin meaning it's the design intention was about an upgradeable system. In today's market ignoring your previous successes or failures to your customer base will not sustain you as a company and your competitors will notice. The Oasys was an excellent creation born of pure imagination and hardwork so as to bring this to fruition, the Kronus is not pure imagination as it is evidently a variation on a theme called Oasys. I think the Kronus is an marvelous machine and I would be inclined to purchase one but for as good as it is there is no reason for me to have faith that Korg would support the growth of this instrument when they did not do it with the flagship of the company's arsenal. I can't commit my resources and hard earned money if the instruments' future growth is also not committed to in the future. The market has changed and investment in it's customer base for the long term is the new currency. Thanks

[AtinDallas]

how many combis does the KRONOS have? same as the M3? i don't have m3 but just wondering am thinking of getting the KRONOS as my first workstation ever! thx

448 populated, 1,792 in total for storage.

Regards
Sharp.

Thanks Mr. Sharp! appreciated!

[sparkie]

Thanks Sharp. for the photos....The WAVE effects is something I cant wait to hear.. I myself though really like the "old-fashioned" hardware pads. I was all excited seeing the video of Mr Hotop and Jordan Rudess playing the Kronus, but couldnt help to notice they were bent over reading the screen...unlike playing the Oasys or M3. I think the decision to "not have a tilting screen" was a super stupid big engineering mistake.. I want to see it in person though to see how easy it is to read. The tilting screen was a big step on the Oasys and M3. Saving a couple hundred bucks without it is a mistake!! Seriously... The touchscreen is the biggest part of the interface to the software and sounds so I cant understand going backwards to the old days of flat screens that you have to bend over and strain your back to read anything..! Sad.......I dont ever remember anyone ever complaining about the tilting screen..and I bet 99% of all owners would gladly pay additional for it! The Tyros just got the tilting screen and now Korg abandons it? WTF......

[StephenKay]

Hi, I have a question regardng the sequencer. Is is capable of playing 16 mono or 16 stereo files? Can the files be streamed directly from SSD or do you need to load them to RAM before?

Same as OASYS.
16 Mono tracks streamed.

Regards
Sharp.

I didn't read the whole thread , so if this was already clarified, sorry. Same as OASYS, you can group the mono tracks into stereo tracks, so you can have up to 8 stereo tracks, or 16 mono tracks, or any combination. And unlike OASYS, KRONOS will read and load stereo wav files.

[burningbusch]

I would be curious to know what's in EXs4 - Vintage Keyboards and EXs5 - ROM Expansion 2. A little bird told me EXs-4 has the sounds from the SV-1. Don't know if it's true.

Thanks.

Busch.

[vEddY]

PC3K8 is one immensly powerful synthesizer. I know it, I have one, too!
Kronos 61 will be a nice company to it... one day.

Agreed. It really has a big library of good sounds and really does a good job of complementing OASYS/Kronos nicely. I've been searchin' the 'net for months before I got it and a couple of months before, when I got K2500R, I already auditioned them on the K2500R and sorted and everything. A couple of hours of work on that to be done and then the recycle bin is gonna be full of .krz, k25 and similar files

[Sharp]

I didn't read the whole thread , so if this was already clarified, sorry. Same as OASYS, you can group the mono tracks into stereo tracks, so you can have up to 8 stereo tracks, or 16 mono tracks, or any combination. And unlike OASYS, KRONOS will read and load stereo wav files.

Thanks Stephen.
That's somthing I didn't know.

Regards
Sharp.

[Akos Janca]

I would be curious to know what's in EXs4 - Vintage Keyboards and EXs5 - ROM Expansion 2. A little bird told me EXs-4 has the sounds from the SV-1. Don't know if it's true.

When I saw the weighted 73-key version this came to my mind somehow: "Kronos contains OASYS + SV-1"? (Yes, it's only speculation! I don't have a proof, I don't want to mislead anyone.) It would be a dream, I'm a big fan of SV-1.

Same as OASYS, you can group the mono tracks into stereo tracks, so you can have up to 8 stereo tracks, or 16 mono tracks, or any combination. And unlike OASYS, KRONOS will read and load stereo wav files.

It's possible in OASYS but in a "less comfortable" way (loading 2 mono files separately). Definitely another plus for Kronos.

[operaman]

Sharp,

I was somewhat surprised at your statement which I paraphrase as " take the Kronus for the value it is now and don't worry about tomorrow as we don't know what that may be". I am a proud Oasys owner and am also and electrical engineer in the network field. I can sort of understand the "marketing slant" to the idea of not even mentioning the Oasys as the precursor to the fabulous technology contained in the Kronus. The problem though that I see and that I feel the Korg marketing folks have really miscalculated by ignoring the Oasys. Basically it is said that you really cannot look forward if you don't acknowledge the past. The market is different now in all fields. People today want long lasting value because people don't want to throw money around as before. People "expect" upgradeability and long term product commitment from vendors. It applies everywhere these days and before we commit to vendors and products for as good as they are. Synthesizers evolved from a modular origin meaning it's the design intention was about an upgradeable system. In today's market ignoring your previous successes or failures to your customer base will not sustain you as a company and your competitors will notice. The Oasys was an excellent creation born of pure imagination and hardwork so as to bring this to fruition, the Kronus is not pure imagination as it is evidently a variation on a theme called Oasys. I think the Kronus is an marvelous machine and I would be inclined to purchase one but for as good as it is there is no reason for me to have faith that Korg would support the growth of this instrument when they did not do it with the flagship of the company's arsenal. I can't commit my resources and hard earned money if the instruments' future growth is also not committed to in the future. The market has changed and investment in it's customer base for the long term is the new currency. Thanks

The problem is that Korg as a company is designed to be profitable. They have brought MANY upgrades to OASYS users over the past several years. I understand it is a huge investment, but in this economic climate they needed to produce something that they could sell and was profitable. They were bleeding money from OASYS and as far as I have read and heard, they never really turned a profit from this venture.

They distanced themselves because many circles saw OASYS as a curiousity, and a luxury for only the very richest or most successful studio musicians. While I can certainly relate to the frustration of this investment (I lose my butt in computer upgrades. Can't Intel stick to one damn socket... Gahhhh!!!), the OASYS is STILL the pinnacle of a Music Workstation, and I would kill to have one but I would be quickly divorced I am afraid given the outlay of cash for one being in the 5000ish range for one fully loaded and in mint condition.

For me the Kronos brings this power to normal musicians and if anything could prove to be a boon to OASYS users as the file systems are so similar there is bound to be some cross compatibility here. Look at it like this: While Korg may not have intentionally planned upgrades for the OASYS anymore, it is quite likely given the amount of third party support that will arise from the large amount of sales that Kronos will produce that there will be the same availability for OASYS as well. I could be wrong, but it is just a thought.