Korg Kronos?

bobbybee · Post by **bobbybee** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:16 am

I don't think this link was posted yet. Audio quality is not so hot, but Rich F. walks through the different synth engines:

NAMM 2011 - Korg Kronos SynthMe Exclusive First Look Video

One important point is that you can use any/all of the engines together in a combi.

Synthoid · Post by **Synthoid** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:17 am

synthguy wrote:I prefer instruments with individual character, unique output circuitry, fed by cables into an expensive analog console with old analog EQs and summing amps. I'm going to be a hardware guy till the day I die, because all these hunks of metal have different character and a sound to them. It's slight but it's there. It's why I still use my old antique Ensoniqs, rather than throwing those old fossils on ebay.

Different strokes, guys. Your softs haven't made everything else obsolete by a long shot, and neither has hardware.

Amen!

Gargamel314 · Post by **Gargamel314** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:21 am

bobbybee wrote:I don't think this link was posted yet. Audio quality is not so hot, but Rich F. walks through the different synth engines:

NAMM 2011 - Korg Kronos SynthMe Exclusive First Look Video

One important point is that you can use any/all of the engines together in a combi.

i thought it was hilarious that he mentioned our crazy thread in his demo

Randelph · Post by **Randelph** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:22 am

I think it's great that this seems to be 90% recycled from the O and the M3. It took Korg several years? to get the completed M3 OS out (2.0), and the O had its share of wait-and-see-if-Korg-fixes-this-problem.

The M3 and the Fantom G suffered from too early of a launch and then a lot of catchup, so hopefully they've got this one mostly sorted out coming out of the gate.

I would definetly go for a Kronos, esp. as I notice the lack of sound quality in the fx and many of the sounds on the M3; but at the same time, I'm pretty happy with the M3, I can tease some killer sounds out of it by using combi mode, and the damn thing is paid for!

Which is great- I can hang onto my M3 and Nord Stage for a coupla years, by which time there'll be used Kronoses on the market!

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:23 am

I have to say that this is an absolutely incredible release by Korg. As an OASYS owner, I am incredibly excited. This release totally vindicates the vision and efforts of Korg in OASYS, and vindicates our belief and investment in it.

To anyone who doesn't own an OASYS - believe the hype! Kronos is the OASYS II, make no bones about it. It is everything the OASYS is, and then some.

Korg have simultaneously done the following in releasing Kronos:

- They've redefined the workstation. Previously a jack of all trades, now you have the real deal - among the best synthesizer engines and now sample libraries under the hood. But - THE most important thing of all that makes this leave even NI Komplete standing is - no or virtually no latency! You have all of this, live, on a keyboard. The workstation is a real and viable entity again, but vitally, instantaneous in production and live environments alike. Stunning.

- Now that all of OASYS’s stunning engines such as MOD-7, AL-1 and STR-1 are available to the masses, they will receive a massive injection of newly programmed sounds from 3rd parties. Finally, these awesome engines will get to reveal their awesome potential, barely realised to date.

- Korg have just given Yamaha and Roland a hiding. A right trashing. There will essentially be no point to buying any workstation but the Kronos for the foreseeable future. With the synthesizer, sample library, pianos and karma now all integrated into DAW environments and delivering the real deal on stage; Yamaha and Roland have only two options – drop out of the workstation market totally, or respond with similar capabilities. So watch this space for staggering developments in the next few years.

- Finally, for OASYS users, our investment in knowhow, methodologies and so on with OASYS have been given a huge new lease of life.

Overall I think this is a stunning move by Korg. They nailed their colours to the cross, the believed in the hardware synthesizer/workstation at a time when even most on this forum gave up on them, and they have made their incredible technologies available to virtually all musicians who want it badly enough, and they have put it right up to Yamaha and Roland - those two companies are, of their moment, in serious trouble regarding workstation sales. In fact, I’d even say that the CP-1, VPiano, Nord pianos and SV-1 are in serious trouble.

In one release, Korg have literally – and I mean literally – listend to and answered every gripe on the OASYS and M3 forums for the past three years. A stunning release and I’m incredibly excited by it. Again I’ll say to all non OASYS users to date – get the Kronos – it’s a massive improvement on the OASYS in all the ways that OASYS matters – yet the OASYS is still truly stunning – so just think what power you’ll have under your fingertips with Kronos. Get used to that name – you’re going to be seeing it on a lot of videos and live sets – it’s like DX7 or M1 all over again. Yamaha, Roland, Nord (Clavia) and Kurzweil must be quaking in their boots right now.

Kevin.

RAYDAR · Post by **RAYDAR** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:24 am

The most important question for me is that 32bit floating point sound quaility of the Oasys does the Kronos have this?

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:32 am

Now, seriously - what do you think? (and by the way, there's nothing special about 32 bit depth - you need to go 52bits deep to totally eliminate issues such as pan phasing and filtering without harmonic distortion, so I wouldn't get to hot under the collar about that - the Kronos is stunning in capabilities and you are splitting hairs in essentially irrelevant ways). It's deep enough!

Summer2000 · Post by **Summer2000** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:36 am

To those of you who own an Oasys...

How bad is the sequencer? From what I hear it has no piano roll.
Is the sequencer similar to the one in the Triton Studio?
Do you use it instead of software DAW to make complete songs?
Anyone of you actually prefer it over a real DAW?

Timo · Post by **Timo** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:43 am

Gargamel314 wrote:
bobbybee wrote:I don't think this link was posted yet. Audio quality is not so hot, but Rich F. walks through the different synth engines:

NAMM 2011 - Korg Kronos SynthMe Exclusive First Look Video

One important point is that you can use any/all of the engines together in a combi.
i thought it was hilarious that he mentioned our crazy thread in his demo

35-40,000 hits? More like approaching 70,000!

This is going to run and run.

I also wish to thank Synthguy for his eloquent and logical post, places everything into perspective.

AnthonyB · Post by **AnthonyB** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:43 am

Summer2000 wrote:To those of you who own an Oasys...

How bad is the sequencer? From what I hear it has no piano roll.
Is the sequencer similar to the one in the Triton Studio?
Do you use it instead of software DAW to make complete songs?
Anyone of you actually prefer it over a real DAW?

It's not a "bad" sequencer, but its only similar to the triton of 10+years ago, so it's not been "improved" as such. Some people, however, on these forums compose entire scores on the OASYS alone (i think these people work harder at it)

Rosen Sound · Post by **Rosen Sound** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:47 am

I will be hitting NAMM tomorrow morning, if you have a list of things you want me to take pics/vids of let me know here. I am definitely excited to see/hear the kronos! (and eventually buy it)

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:53 am

robbinhood wrote:I will be hitting NAMM tomorrow morning, if you have a list of things you want me to take pics/vids of let me know here. I am definitely excited to see/hear the kronos! (and eventually buy it)

Something I haven't seen yet... I'd like to see if someone can confirm that the Kronos has aftertouch. It's not listed in the specs, but I can't imagine they'd make a $3k+ workstation without it...

Rosen Sound · Post by **Rosen Sound** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:55 am

Scott wrote:
robbinhood wrote:I will be hitting NAMM tomorrow morning, if you have a list of things you want me to take pics/vids of let me know here. I am definitely excited to see/hear the kronos! (and eventually buy it)
Something I haven't seen yet... I'd like to see if someone can confirm that the Kronos has aftertouch. It's not listed in the specs, but I can't imagine they'd make a $3k+ workstation without it...

i was thinking the same actually.
I will definitely confirm.

Summer2000 · Post by **Summer2000** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:02 am

robbinhood wrote:I will be hitting NAMM tomorrow morning, if you have a list of things you want me to take pics/vids of let me know here. I am definitely excited to see/hear the kronos! (and eventually buy it)

Let me know if user samples can be loaded and played directly from disk without having to load them in RAM.
Also please ask Korg if the sequencer was updated.

Thanks.

Summer2000 · Post by **Summer2000** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:03 am

double post...