Can you reach 127 on curve 9 on the X?
Also whats the fan noise like?
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On my X73 I can reach 127. Black keys are easier. But you really need to exert a great deal of force. Curve 9 is easy, curve 4 needs more power but still possible.
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On velocity curve 9,BobTheDog wrote:Can you reach 127 on curve 9 on the X?
Also whats the fan noise like?
playing very quiet gives me 7, I can get 1, but I have to really concentrate on not pressing hardly at all, realistically, playing a string of notes, I'm averaging mid to high 20's
Playing a string of notes fast, as hard as I can gives me between 92 and 106.
Using my thumb as hard as I can with my fingers resting over the other notes I'm getting around 120.
Whacking a 3 note chord I'm getting 116
Whacking one note as hard as I dare as though I'm whacking a drum pad as hard as I can, I do hit 127
So I do have the full range if I try, but I wouldn't say its a usable range in normal playing
Don't notice the fan but never noticed it on my previous two either
Unfortunately for some of us this can be hard, mine has just been off to Korg to me "mended" for a noisy fan and what I think are keyboard issues with not getting a full range of velocity out of the keyboard and dropped notes.sl72 wrote:Stop analyzing and enjoy! You paid a lot of money for the greatest workstation in the world, just have fun with it
It came back with a new fan which I think may be noisier than the last, the keyboard issues were also not fixed.
I find it hard not to analyse it and just enjoy it as I think I have a got a donkey, the synth engines themselves are fantastic but the niggles are getting to me. A bit like if you buy a new car and it has endless rattles, you begin to hate that car however good the rest of it may be.
This is kind of how I feel. I eventually sold my Kronos 61 at a $700 loss. But, I just bought another one...brand new for $1650 which, in my opinion, is about what it's worth given the number of issues with the product.BobTheDog wrote:Unfortunately for some of us this can be hard, mine has just been off to Korg to me "mended" for a noisy fan and what I think are keyboard issues with not getting a full range of velocity out of the keyboard and dropped notes.sl72 wrote:Stop analyzing and enjoy! You paid a lot of money for the greatest workstation in the world, just have fun with it
It came back with a new fan which I think may be noisier than the last, the keyboard issues were also not fixed.
I find it hard not to analyse it and just enjoy it as I think I have a got a donkey, the synth engines themselves are fantastic but the niggles are getting to me. A bit like if you buy a new car and it has endless rattles, you begin to hate that car however good the rest of it may be.
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I'm not analysing, I'm extremely happy with it.sl72 wrote:Stop analyzing and enjoy! You paid a lot of money for the greatest workstation in the world, just have fun with it
I was asked to try something by another forum member hence I did so. Presuming the way the velocities work are very important to the way he works, I did a few tests for him so that he knew whether the X version would solve his problems or not.
I do agree with Bobthedog, when you know there's a problem there, you cant enjoy the synth. While waiting for my replacement, I honestly didn't enjoy playing it that much being constantly aware of my problem.
It's like having a completely different machine now though, everything works as it should and at last, around 3 months after I first spent my money, I'm finally enjoying myself without worrying about whats going to go wrong with the keybed next.
And yes the 2nd hand market for Kronos has plummeted in the UK, I can buy a new B Stock 88 for £2099 with warranty, so buying a used one from someone without warranty, without the knowledge that if the keybed problem appeared, i could get it looked at for nothing etc, wouldn't be worth anywhere near that much in my opinion.
I wouldn't have accepted another original Kronos from my retailer. If they hadn't offered me the X, I would have gone the Yamaha route, or got a refund and got myself a 2nd hand Kronos for around £1800 or even a B stock one (which mine effectively was anyway).
RH3 in different models
The RH3 keybeds are indeed the same in KRONOS and SV1. I'd say because the SV1 is manufactured in Italy and the Kronos in Japan, this may have something to do with it? Also just the fact that they are different boards in terms of how each reads velocity's and note information etc.popmann wrote:I do agree it's odd.
I personally think its weird that two boards with supposedly the same RH3 keybed play so differently--yet, I've played several sv1s and they are a dream. I like my Kronos's action, but not as much as I like the sv1. I didn't play a lot of attention because it was supposed to be "the same" keybed Id happily used On several occassions. Later, when I got a chance to sit with them both, they're obviously different beds. Making "rh3" relatively meaningless.
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Re: RH3 in different models
Hi, I haven't read the whole thread, but the information above is not correct. The SV-1 is manufactured in China using an RH3 keybed made in Japan.HOOS wrote:The RH3 keybeds are indeed the same in KRONOS and SV1. I'd say because the SV1 is manufactured in Italy and the Kronos in Japan, this may have something to do with it? Also just the fact that they are different boards in terms of how each reads velocity's and note information etc.popmann wrote:I do agree it's odd.
I personally think its weird that two boards with supposedly the same RH3 keybed play so differently--yet, I've played several sv1s and they are a dream. I like my Kronos's action, but not as much as I like the sv1. I didn't play a lot of attention because it was supposed to be "the same" keybed Id happily used On several occassions. Later, when I got a chance to sit with them both, they're obviously different beds. Making "rh3" relatively meaningless.