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chilly7 wrote: It is just information which leaked to public, we might not know how terrible are things with Android or any other platforms are.

Sharp wrote:

BobTheDog wrote:Apple put a certain polish on things though.

I had CE smartphones for years and they were a bit crap, the iPhone came out and it just worked well, smooth and non complicated.

Yes indeed, had me a Win CE phone too at one point

I found Symbian OS back in those days was pretty alright though. The SONY P900i that I had back then was pretty tricked out for that era. It had an icon based GUI, widgets, multi taksing and so on. Often I'd get out of memory messages on the p900i and I'd have to manually close apps, but those were the fun days when you had to be a geek to even operate one of those phones let alone own one.

Good memories.

Regards
Sharp.

Sharp wrote:

chilly7 wrote: It is just information which leaked to public, we might not know how terrible are things with Android or any other platforms are.

No doubt, but just so you know, that wasn't a criticism of iOS. With what Snowden has released so far there is no question that the NSA are tapped into everything. I see today Dell apologising for their computers coming with NSA Spyware pre-installed.

That new Mac Pro will really save the NSA lots of time. It will be able to upload your content to the NSA so much faster. Think of the billions we could save the tax payers if the NSA gave everyone a free Mac Pro. They would improve productivity by thousands of percent over night.

It's a mad world we live in.

Sharp.

chilly7 wrote:tear down of Mac Pro http://www.macrumors.com/2013/12/31/tea ... therboard/

BobTheDog wrote:

chilly7 wrote:tear down of Mac Pro http://www.macrumors.com/2013/12/31/tea ... therboard/

And more details http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Mac+Pro+ ... down/20778

Its a pretty interesting design when you look at it.

BobTheDog wrote:Well I ordered one, had to sell one of the children but thats how it goes.

Went for 12 core, D500s, 32GB and 1TB ssd.

I will let you know how it goes when it arrives...

Timo wrote:

blackmamba wrote:It's interesting.

I guess it really depends of one's needs.
For me, a touchscreen tablet will never replace a monitor.

Clearly you haven't played with one, along with apps designed for touch. It's a different world!

Furthermore a touchscreen is a monitor! Albeit with multi-touch sensitivity capability. A chameleon control surface.

Buy a nice mouse with lot of possible customization and it will do the job very good, with zooms, etc ...
A mouse is a genius tool, it allows to cross centimeters by moving it by some millimeters.
And I don't even talk about the keyboard ...

A mouse can't alter several parameters all at the same time like your fingers can on a touchscreen. Mice deny you the ability to quickly pinch in/out, rotate, shuttle, move multiple faders/knobs etc.

Mice are more accurate for certain things, though. For example you won't be able to do intricate, accurate 3D graphic modelling quickly without a mouse. But when apps are redesigned for touch use from the ground up, apps become less fiddly.

The iPad, for example, has been designed to forget the mouse, entirely. And in the main it does it rather well! Wanting to plug a mouse in has never crossed my mind. Except when I want to do 3D modelling, but then iPad can't run 3Ds Max or Photoshop anyway.

BobTheDog wrote:Well I ordered one, had to sell one of the children but thats how it goes.

Went for 12 core, D500s, 32GB and 1TB ssd.

I will let you know how it goes when it arrives...

BobTheDog wrote:Nope, looks like a 6-7 week wait from what I have seen so far from other people.