Kronos 2 replacement

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:51 pm

fcoulter wrote:
laurance wrote:
fcoulter wrote: I can't speak for the European price, but the Sweetwater price is unchanged from six months ago.

What does it mean if Europe is dumping stock while the United States isn't?
its speculation about 'dumping stock ' in Europe. But we can speculate just for discussion sake.

Could be a result of lower sales/more inventory with European disti's and their dealers (?).

But in US, sales could be solid and there is no need to do anything dramatic.
I think we have a stronger economy, cheap interest rates for financing and possibly a stronger currency.

Each country distributor can deal with their inventory circumstances and local economic factors as they need to. Thats my understanding. Plus there is no way I would buy a K2 in France and have it shipped here in the US. ( I would have to pay for shipping).

Just to repeat, we don't have enough facts on the above. So its guessing, for fun.

fcoulter · Post by **fcoulter** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:16 pm

GregC wrote:
fcoulter wrote:What does it mean if Europe is dumping stock while the United States isn't?
its speculation about 'dumping stock ' in Europe. But we can speculate just for discussion sake.

Could be a result of lower sales/more inventory with European disti's and their dealers (?).

But in US, sales could be solid and there is no need to do anything dramatic.
I think we have a stronger economy, cheap interest rates for financing and possibly a stronger currency.

Each country distributor can deal with their inventory circumstances and local economic factors as they need to. Thats my understanding. Plus there is no way I would buy a K2 in France and have it shipped here in the US. ( I would have to pay for shipping).

Just to repeat, we don't have enough facts on the above. So its guessing, for fun.

Great answer to a rhetorical question.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:20 pm

It does sound like something might be up but honestly, EU prices have been so much higher than US prices for so long that it only seems fair if they finally come down to something more even.
By the way even with the EU weaker than it has been, 2600e is about 2750USD so it's not a huge difference.

arne v · Post by **arne v** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:26 pm

hmm... in norway an 88 k2 cost 4250 USD

For a normal person its a 1,5 month of net salary. in comparison a Moog Model D costs the same. The price has stayed the same since it arrived in 2015...

The K2 61 is at 3444 USD

laurance · Post by **laurance** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:27 pm

SanderXpander wrote:It does sound like something might be up but honestly, EU prices have been so much higher than US prices for so long that it only seems fair if they finally come down to something more even.
By the way even with the EU weaker than it has been, 2600e is about 2750USD so it's not a huge difference.

That's why I said above, that you have already a good price USA.

musicsound · Post by **musicsound** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:19 am

Kronos Gold. ... what a revolution

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:09 am

fcoulter wrote:
That wasn't the price I paid. I got the 88 key which cost more. But since we were looking at drops in the price of the 61 key, I thought I'd look it up.

The 88 key hasn't dropped in six months, either.

What does it mean if Europe is dumping stock while the United States isn't?

Considering the state of the UK exchange rates at the moment, I was a bit shocked to see a general price drop of £700 on the K2-88 here in the UK - I only bought mine a while back for £3499. I wish I'd waited

As SanderXpander wrote - Maybe they're just equalizing US/Europe prices, and about time too (but why not the rest of Korg's range?)

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:49 pm

We should get a prize for our 'non prediction '

Kronos2ison · Post by **Kronos2ison** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:20 am

About 40 days ago I had both Musicians Friend and Guitar Center at $2150 on a sealed Kronos 2 61key. I pulled the trigger. I would say something new is coming at summer Namm.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:55 pm

Kronos2ison wrote:About 40 days ago I had both Musicians Friend and Guitar Center at $2150 on a sealed Kronos 2 61key. I pulled the trigger. I would say something new is coming at summer Namm.

I say no

NormC · Post by **NormC** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:36 pm

Kronos2ison wrote:About 40 days ago I had both Musicians Friend and Guitar Center at $2150 on a sealed Kronos 2 61key. I pulled the trigger. I would say something new is coming at summer Namm.

There are other reasons for this. Sounds like a great deal as they still list it for $2999 and open box units for $2639. Guitar Center and Musicians Friend are the same company and their relationship with Korg has been strained over the past few years. It would be nice to see the next generation but it is unlikely to be this year.

Kronos2ison · Post by **Kronos2ison** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:37 pm

Well I kinda didn't tell the full truth.. I did pay $2150 total but also with rewards program with the music store got $344 gift card to buy anything I want..

I would say I got the best deal ever..

$2150
- $344
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$1806

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:34 pm

This may be heresy but it wouldn't surprise me to see the next version of Kronos being, software hosted in you computer either within the DAW or standalone. I am not sure I like that. On one hand without the hardware it should be much more reasonably priced but then your stuck to an OS and once they stop supporting it its done unless you keep a legacy unit around. And then you need a quality controller. I know I could continue with the KX61 I have but what about new people to Kronos who don't have hardware. I don't know but this possibility is not that far fetched, I think.

enigmahack · Post by **enigmahack** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:26 am

Bertotti wrote:This may be heresy but it wouldn't surprise me to see the next version of Kronos being, software hosted in you computer either within the DAW or standalone. I am not sure I like that. On one hand without the hardware it should be much more reasonably priced but then your stuck to an OS and once they stop supporting it its done unless you keep a legacy unit around. And then you need a quality controller. I know I could continue with the KX61 I have but what about new people to Kronos who don't have hardware. I don't know but this possibility is not that far fetched, I think.

Actually not a half-bad idea... If they had a software version of the Kronos that could potentially add polyphony to your existing Kronos - use your existing Kronos as the controller and bam - more power. I could also see having a rackmount PC as your VST host and running the "Kronos" software in there too. *shrugs*

One can dream huh?

Jan1 · Post by **Jan1** » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:28 am

Bertotti wrote:This may be heresy but it wouldn't surprise me to see the next version of Kronos being, software hosted in you computer either within the DAW or standalone. I am not sure I like that. On one hand without the hardware it should be much more reasonably priced but then your stuck to an OS and once they stop supporting it its done unless you keep a legacy unit around. And then you need a quality controller. I know I could continue with the KX61 I have but what about new people to Kronos who don't have hardware. I don't know but this possibility is not that far fetched, I think.

That's really what AKAI has done with the new MPC.
It runs both in standalone mode and acts as a controller for the MPC software on a computer, the best of both worlds.