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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:01 pm
by Biggles
You are not limited by the drum tracks that are included with a specific Style.

Copy your chosen Style to a User Bank and go in and edit the drum tracks as desired.

Track Select will shuttle between the lower and upper track numbers and it is in the upper section that you will find the drums.

There are plenty of choices and enhancements you can make to the Style backing.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:42 pm
by Musicwithharry
If I am reading the scope of this thread correctly, the OP wants to have styles that sound like particular songs, namely the ones in their list.

One thing that I have not seen as an option yet is the SMF to Style Converter Bot that our PA keyboards have.

I use A LOT of MIDI Sequences for the Duo and Trio that I am putting together and we cover much of this music. I notice a couple of issues that are obvious to all of us:

1. If playing a sequence or SMF, then we are limited to the length of the sequence itself; there is no room for improv. This is why using styles would be preferred much of the time.

2. If we use the Style Mode for our songs, we are limited to 8 tracks and that may not cause the song to sound as full Using Sequencer Mode can help with that because we can have up to 16 tracks of song data being played.

Maybe we can have something that would work for both situations. Maybe our SMF to Style Creator Bot can help create styles from different SMF sequences that we have. If we download a good quality (or program one) sequence, run it through the Style Creator Bot, we might get a style that would work for a particular song.

I know that the Style Creator Bot is 'hit or miss', but I have a few styles that actually worked pretty well. Then, you can go in and change the programs for each track to what you want them to be, and have something that could work live for everybody.

Just a thought.

To my knowledge, The Final Countdown is actually a style on the PA series. I am not sure about the others, as I have not found them in my PA keyboard, nor have I found them in any Bonusware styles.

I do have a SMF for 'What a Feeling' from Flashdance, if that is what you are looking for. I programmed it from scratch and even added an extended section at the end for a guitar solo (which I would play on my Korg M50 with a lead guitar patch I made).

In a worst case scenario, you could program a MIDI sequence for the songs you want, get them all set up and try to use them in the Style Converter Bot and see what happens. There are also MANY sites online that have pre-programmed MIDI files out there:

AudioMIDIMania
Supremem MIDI Network
Hit Trax

I have used these sites for certain songs, and by and large, the files are pretty good. There are modifications to be made for ALL of them, even if those mods are simply changing the programs from GM sounds to Factory/Legacy/User sounds and different EFX routings. There are lots more Free sites too, but your mileage may vary as to their quality. Some require complete rewrites, some just require a reprogramming of a track or two...

Grace,
Harry

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:34 pm
by Korghelper
In the case of an SMF not being long enough for you, that is precisely the problem that Markers solves. Place a Marker at the start of the section you are likeliest to want to repeat, and a Marker at the place you are likely to want to jump to to finish the song, and voila! When you want to play longer, select the Marker, when you don't, just let the sequence finish normally...

And, as I have alluded to earlier, there's nothing to stop you from appending whole different SMF's to the end of the sequence with a few bars gap between them (so you can hand stop the SMF if you just want the one song) so you can do freely structured medleys, or append a different vamp section to be used at will. You can also use these appended sections as different Intros, if you like, and then jump to the Marker you have placed for the first verse, etc..

I make a practice of ALWAYS putting a Marker at the start of any instrumental solo section, so if I feel like doing an extra solo, or jumping back to another solo from near the end (if the dancers keep dancing, or I have a guest sitting in, for instance) in every sequence I use. That's just the basics, but Markers at bridges can make for an interesting way to extend a song without constant repetition, too.

Songstyles do indeed offer a more flexible solution to playing without having to input the chords, but they take considerably more time and effort to create and set up, and remembering what each Division does, and the order you need to trigger them to simply get the base structure of the song needs to be either memorized or written down and displayed and triggered accurately. For me, the big advantage of using Markers in the SMF is that it only takes a few seconds to place and name them, and should you decide that you merely want the usual structure of the sequence, you need do nothing at all, just let it play!

I guess I just feel that the solution that takes the least effort is the one most likely to be used!

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:07 am
by korg1
Korghelper wrote:I’ve never been asked to do non-stop music for hours on end..!

People my age don’t go to raves! Most of us can’t dance for one whole song, let alone a whole evening..! Admittedly the music scene in the US may be pretty different than Europe’s, but I can’t think of a single venue outside of DJ gigs where a live act would need to play without the slightest break.

You have a ‘solution’ to a problem I think very few people have...

I usually play in Hotels nowdays,(before covid i mean)
when people dance,i prefer to avoid stopping if i can match medleys or single songs together,even from different genres or tempo.

When i play Greek music,depending what kind of music will be,or where i perform,
then ,in a club for example,usually i perform non-stop most of the time...Songs are chosen on the fly too,depending the needs,and the structure of each song,depends on the singer,so,whatever happens, i have to be able to make it through,even if that means that singer starts to sing a song that does not exist in my list or any list :)

Here is a demo i made some years ago,build from various song's intros,just changing styles on the fly for the demo purposes :
https://soundcloud.com/korgfx/custom-gr ... gstyle-set

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:21 pm
by keith-helen
Hi
I am not sure if this helps but I have been having a clean up and noticed that on the 26th June 2018 I printed out 2 pages of song titles with styles which Miden had posted on this forum . He included this link which I just checked still works.
http://korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/view ... highlight=

Best wishes and keep safe

Keith Lawton

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:57 am
by deora
Hi,

My original question was where I can get styles for particular songs.

So far I have not received the reply I was looking for, and the topic went a different direction, which is great - but I still do not have an answer for my question.

Is there anywhere with styles made for specific songs.

The main item I am looking for is the drums and bass.

Please send me links or contact details where I can find song specific styles.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:29 am
by DonM

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:15 am
by korg1
deora wrote:Hi,

My original question was where I can get styles for particular songs.

Is there anywhere with styles made for specific songs.

The main item I am looking for is the drums and bass.

Please send me links or contact details where I can find song specific styles.

As i said, on my my site there is "Money4Nothing" style.
I could also provide you "down under" as i have made it so far (it's not uploaded on my site yet).
I don't have anything ready for the other styles you want,but i am planning to create final countdown,can't know exactly when though.

greetings

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:08 pm
by Korghelper
I think the direction slightly changed because if you are looking for something VERY accurate and specific, you stand a far higher chance of finding it as an SMF rather than someone having already prepared a songstyle from an SMF or having created it from scratch.

The diversion into the Markers feature was simply to illustrate that using an SMF instead of a style doesn’t mean that you lose the ability to restructure it on the fly any more.

Sorry for the distraction, but I simply feel an awful lot of people fail to realize how flexible the Markers system can be, or understand how easy (especially compared to preparing highly specific songstyles) it is to implement...

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:15 pm
by Musicwithharry
deora wrote:Hi,

My original question was where I can get styles for particular songs.

So far I have not received the reply I was looking for, and the topic went a different direction, which is great - but I still do not have an answer for my question.

Is there anywhere with styles made for specific songs.

The main item I am looking for is the drums and bass.

Please send me links or contact details where I can find song specific styles.
I did provide you with information about these styles.

Again, I believe that The Final Countdown is a style already in the Korg PA series. You are going to have to look for it.

I also gave you three Midi File sites that you can search for the MIDI files.

If you Google Free MIDI Files, you will get a plethora of sites that you can search.

Additionally, I also commented about using the Style Creator Bot and how it might also help you make styles from the MIDI files.

As far as song specific links, I do not have those. You are going to have to do some searching on your own, and you may have to modify the SMF songs with different sounds, as you will likely want to change from GM sounds to factory sounds. This thread, thus far, has given a wealth of information for you to get the songs you want.

Grace,
Harry