4X Piano Sounds

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taichi
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Post by taichi »

Hi Harry, thanks for your post. I hear and respect every paragraph that you write, as I always do. Some good stuff there for us all. Other posts here have opened up a discussion about pianos in general, really pleased about that. Keyboards, uprights, pianos from the past “be real not perfect”. Thanks all.

Just one thing, Reverb that you mentioned. The manual for pa700, 1000 and 4X shows many settings for Reverb. Menu – Master Effects – FXB – Drop Down Menu – choose. I have chosen O Verb as a test but there are so many. Lots to learn, one day at a time. Will be different settings for each instrument I suppose ??

Keep playing yes, keep it natural and learn the “BASICS” from the manual and this forum. That is where I am at the moment. Well done all, thanks.
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Post by Korghelper »

The main problem with sampling less than perfect pianos is, you need enough RAM for each note, hopefully at several velocities. Those slightly out of tune notes, wolf notes etc. are different for each note. You can’t stretch a sample’s range to cover two or three notes, because a real piano would never have the same inharmonicity on adjacent notes.

I have a feeling this may be at the heart of why so many arranger pianos are just so ‘perfect’... generally there’s not enough RAM used for each note to be sampled at several levels. So they end up tuning them perfectly, as this allows the sample to be mapped to a few notes without their character jumping out.

Maybe if you max out the RAM and use it ALL for one piano this is doable. But how many of us are willing to burn the whole shebang for ONE piano?!
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Post by taichi »

Thanks Korghelper, even more to think about now.

Thanks everyone also. Briefly, today i have chosen 4 pads from "SEQENCE" plus a piano and saved into Songbook. No style. Played the song, piano plus pads, just one or two and three whatever to suit. Then I have tweaked the piano like we say above.

I am hoping that with just sequence pads as a song I can better hear changes made to the piano ??? I hope that makes sense.
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Post by Korghelper »

Just in time to illustrate my points, out comes Spitfire Audio’s Mrs Mills piano from Abby Road studios...

Perhaps a hair too tinkly for a general purpose piano, but it does show how character can define a sound.

https://youtu.be/w9-3E9qLmiM
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