Who else on the board has an O1/Wfd besides me?

[Nythiul]

Ahem, I'm a little late entering this thread, but I just had to comment.

I've had an 01/W FD from the early 90's too and just picked up a Triton Extreme. While I haven't gone through all the sounds yet, I must say that the choirs and some of the string patches have not found a rival on the Triton. I use a lot of those in my music, so I've been considering sampling some parts over from the 01/W to the Triton to take advantage of the more flexible sequencer. I don't know enough about sound creation to recreate them in the Triton.

Maybe with a little tweaking I can get the Triton choir to sound a bit better, but it doesn't have the same feel that the 01/W's program B37 has. Another one I haven't found a rival for is combination B97 for strings...aptly named.

You know it's bad when you see license plates with a letter followed by a number and you immediately think of which sound that corresponds to on your keyboard.

[HPH24]

I just bought a TR61, as an Extreme would have broken the budget I had for a faster Mac, Cubase Studio and several softsynths. SIGH. But am I complaining? Nah. The TR will need reprogramming over time to suit me, as does any synth, but when I layer it with the 01W, holy bleep, its incredibly rich. I can't wait to tweak those in a layer with MOTU's Symphonic Instrument. Imagine REAL choirs layered with the 01W's Deep Choir and the TR's Combi B 043, Universal Choir. Somebody get me a TOWEL!

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[nevoken]

I have a 01/w fd too! I love it!!
But I have a problem now, I'll post it here as well

So:
I've just tried sequencing on it, however, when recording, the tones are not the same as in the programs.
Say if I choose to record with the A01 piano whose sharpness, attack time or echo I already changed and saved in the program, still if I use it as the tone of my recording, it will be the old piano-sound without any effects.
It's only the octave that won't change back to its basic setting.
I'd like to record the feedbacker guitar with my sequencer, which sounds awesome, however, when I use it while recording, it's really plain and terrible.
Thanks for your help in advance...

Laura

[HPH24]

Its a "drawback" of the 01W's architecture. You have TWO effects blocks; that's it. In order for the Programs to sound as they did when you set them up, you have to assign the effects from within the sequencer, too. Two separate situations. Programs come to it dry, because in a sequence, its becomes a Combi situation. The 01W "assumes" you will want a different effects situation for a group of sounds, as opposed to a single patch.
Therefore, the answer is to allocate the effects carefully. You have to route that great guitar distortion to just that patch and live with the rest being dry. THAT'S why we buy more gear, more recent synths with more effects sends and use sequencers such as Cubase.
I often sort of "gave up" and ran a lot of my 01W-only songs through a general reverb, but that makes a piece sound a bit muddy in a way. I became far happier when I took on Cubasis ages ago and could apply effects as I laid down tracks. Even if you only do audio printing rather than wiring up a bigger stack for real-time virtual tracking via MIDI, it still frees you by providing MANY more routings. Look at the 01W as being somewhat like the very new/hot Roland V-Synth GT: its MASSIVE up to the point where you need to integrate it with the outside world and record with it. Think of it as taking you 75% of the way there and then needing a partner or two to hit 100%.

Phew, that's a lotta blather! Make use of these two addys and you'll be able to get more out of the synth. The cliffcan is a manual on steroids and answers many puzzlers. Good luck widdit! Huey

http://groups.yahoo.com/korg01w-list

http://net.indra.com/~cliffcan/01online.htm

[my2sons8791]

Bought my O1Wfd new back in the early 90's. Gigged with it for years while living in New Orleans. Still have it and just used it on a new CD I worked on. This keybaord has been rock solid. So much, that I bought another off of Ebay just in case my original ever crashed. I then picked up a Triton which is a great pice in it's on right. The 2nd O1w has since been sold to a chap in Burbank. Yes, I am a big Korg fan. My current aresenal consits of:
Triton, O1Wfd, Wavestation A/D, i5m, ih harmonizer and a D1200 digital recorder. Great gear that never lets you down!

[nevoken]

Thanks for the explanation! At the time when I wrote here I didn't even realise there was an effect page for the sequencer but since then I've found it and it's not so terrible after all! It takes some time to get to know how it works, though...
Cubase must be good, I've heard a lot about it... i guess I'll try it when I start thinking of writing music seriously, now just for fun the Korg's gonna be fine for me.

[gregwar]

the O1W/fd was my first midi keyboard (before that it was all analog & acoustic). it sounds a little cheesy but can be warm and thick with a little tweeking. my favorite feature is waveshaping which i can't get from other keyboards (except oasys or expensive modular synth systems or sculpture in logic 8 ). its still my main midi controller after over a decade, purchased it in the early 90s. great thread, great keyboard.

[se0waraxe]

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[Gargamel314]

as technology advances and Korg's workstations get more elaborate and impressive, I'd still never part with my 01/Wfd. Wish I could say mine's in perfect shape... the backlighting needs replacement and my top C key gets jammed so it doesn't pop back up... but it still has a warmth unmatched by any other workstation.

The piano sound is terribly unrealistic, but is still a joy to play on. The woodwind and brass sounds great too, but the ensemble strings programs are the best of any synth I've ever heard. Pretty much everything on it rocks and it's just missing a few essential sounds to make it complete. It makes me sad that Korg abandoned some great features from the 01/W when they moved on to produce the X and N series.

[Spud]

never get rid of your 01w/fd, period!

there is something about this keyboard that no other has. It's as if the guys at Korg just knew it was ground breaking and they ploughed every effort into making it sound good. Also its limitations made you work harder at producing great sounding music whereas today with so many options we can get lazy. Some of my best work is on the 01w/fd and I still can't emulate it on better technological keys like the Triton.

On another note: My mate has an original M1 from new in mint condition, 1990. Man this sounds crap! the sounds are really hard and uninspiring. I thought it was the bees knees when I first heard it but it cant hold a candle to the 01w/fd.

just my opinion and like noses everyone has on and theres usually a couple of holes in it

[jorgemncardoso]

Totally agree with you my friend, the 01W is still a great machine. Of course some might disagree but in the end is all about the type of sounds you are looking for, the type of music you play and the period of that music. What is a great sound to some is crap to others and vice versa.

For me the 01 still have great pads, voice pads, strings, and some electric pianos, marimbas ans some atmospheric synth sounds, as it has the same chip as the wavestation, so it can make some wavestation pads easily. It's great in emulating D50 sounds as well.

Having said this i also love my T3 for other sounds, that sounds better then on the 01. Some samples on the T3 are just better in some cases.

I know that a lot of guys underrate the 01W as a 90's synth and will tell you that it sound's 90's. Yep generaly it does, soo...? Is that a bad thing by any chance...? I grew up in the 80's so 90's music is my thing. I can not make todays synths sound like that unless i sample the 01 and put it in a Kronos or whatever, so for that type of sounds i prefer to use the real deal. You can also get very up to date sounds with the 01 with some clever programing

Also today's generation tend to have it all easily available, just load in a new sample if you need a sound and its done. It's a sample generation. Back when the 01 was made the internal waveforms was all we had, apart from the cards of course. People had to be creative in making good sounds with the waveforms available, and some great and unique sounds where made. It may not be the most realistic sound in the world it had a unique character, and that's why is hard to reproduce old synth sounds like the 01 today without sampling it.

Just my 2 cents...

[Norton]

Since we play mostly 60's, 70's and 80's music, mine works fine for me.

[Spud]

On the sound of the 01w/fd; I have a few disks by Victor Cerullo which I managed to get from somewhere I can't remember. Man could that guy could write programs for the 01 or what?

[jorgemncardoso]

Nice, do you have some sysex files of those disks you can share?...