FINALLY , here are some EMX1( new knobs ) pics at last ...

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:28 pm

I'll stick to my development of my own groove box thank you very much

it will own electribes

if you want to hear details ask me privately it's too early in the morning to type out the project.

supermel74 · Post by **supermel74** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:03 am

Ruso wrote:I'll stick to my development of my own groove box thank you very much it will own electribes

if you want to hear details ask me privately it's too early in the morning to type out the project.

If it involves software or a computer in any way then it defeats the point of a groovebox.

Borg · Post by **Borg** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:23 pm

I'm switching knobs with a guy know. They're in aluminium with that black rubber around them. But it's just the 13 mm knobs. I still want replacements for the 20 and 24 mm knobs in the same style.

And I have a question. The knob for choosing effects won't go off. I have pulled pretty hard, but don't wanna break it. So how are you supposed to get it off?

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:46 am

supermel74 wrote:
Ruso wrote:I'll stick to my development of my own groove box thank you very much it will own electribes

if you want to hear details ask me privately it's too early in the morning to type out the project.
If it involves software or a computer in any way then it defeats the point of a groove box.

that's not true, and you seem to have your definitions messed up.

First of all (some credit goes to wiki to double check but in the end it's common sense) a groove box is a sound module, a sequencer, and a control surface. It stores patterns it can recall patterns play back, mute parts. It is something you can pick up and play instantly without any extra input devices or screens to look at. The best part about them is that they can instantly be turned on and knobs can be turned....

my project does involve software, and it will meet ALL o f that criteria.

In fact that's not a bright remark because the electribes are simply shitty micro controllers(weak computer processors). How in any way does it defeat the purpose of a hardware groove box?

have you ever messed with reaktor? it is 100% software and in it it has several models for 100% software groove boxes it makes them in no way less versitile and out of the box then a traditional groove box if you invest the time to make new features.

now my project is not that. And it will use a form of a pc... but no it won't have a screen and no it won't have a mouse. Currently it's hooked up to a lap top for development but in the end it won't need to. it will be two parts. With the pc part being not much bigger then the electribe power supplies.

It can be taken out, you can select a blank pattern, and instantly create music.

Just because it has not been done before properly doesn't mean it defeats or in any way is less superior to it's all hardware counterparts. It will act exactly the same as the hardware counter part but will be virtually unlimited with full polyphony, complex effects chains and great sequencing options. It has a much more superior knob and slider layout then an electribe does(by using a microKONTROL as the control surface in native mode)... it has 9 lcd panels for menus and 9 encoders for uninterrupted knob movements, as well as 8 sliders with pickup mode.

it has a joystick control which I plan to implement to do different tasks depending on which sub menu of a part or pattern you're in. For example under synth parts it will modulate the filter controls but when you switch to effects it will modulate the most important effect parameters for supreme live abilities.

On top of that, it will utilize ableton 7's superior audio engine as the sound module which will provide all the complex routing to webbed together.

Altogether it's not a very complex project because I'm going to use ableton as the sound engine. So all in all it will own electribes without sacrificing the groove box feel and interface(which makes a groove box a groove box) and outdo all of the functions a groove box could not ever handle.

If you're curious I'm finishing up the interface components and started writing the sequencer engine. It's well on its way and it's going strong.

supermel74 · Post by **supermel74** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:46 am

Sounds like it will be quite the unit. When I said computer I was thinking more in terms of the traditional monitor/mouse setup. The way you have described it does sound pretty sweet. Good luck and post the results.

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:16 am

well you did say a computer in any way.

reddone · Post by **reddone** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:10 pm

mmm ... pulling the big knobs off eh ?
Well i just got 2 flat screwdrivers n put em either side of the knob n prized it that way . Just be careful to scratch ur faceplate

be patient tho , as above all this could damage ur machine if not done correctly . Forget tube changing problems , this is what u want to watch carefully with.

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:07 pm

yup that's exactly how I got a knob jitter issue on my emx's synth param 1 knob (although it's very minor and still workable)

Borg · Post by **Borg** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:02 pm

Alright... Thanks for the warning. But why is it so hard to get off? Isn't it a d-shaft knob like the others?

@ Ruso: I'd love to see your groove box when it's done! Sounds awesome. Could you guess when you're done with it?

reddone · Post by **reddone** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:49 pm

i find that if u squeeze the knob its harder to get off . try simply holding it firm enough and pull . It is a d-hole so it will come , but do be carefull my friend .

Borg · Post by **Borg** » Tue May 06, 2008 7:09 pm

The knob switch is complete and here's what it looks like:

(sorry for the lo-res pic)

With the knobs exchanged, it's alot easier to tweak your stuff. It's rubberized which gives you a better, steadier feel of the knobs.
Now I'm just looking for the two knobs that's left - one 20 mm and one 24 mm. But I've figured two 20 mm would do. And I'd like to exchange the arpeggiator thingy. I know where to get knobs, but where do I get my hands on a crossfader-glider-thing?

TrondC · Post by **TrondC** » Wed May 07, 2008 10:02 am

cool stuff, but for me, I feel the other way around: I'd like my EA-1 and ER-1to have the same metallic knobs as my ESX :p

reddone · Post by **reddone** » Wed May 07, 2008 12:33 pm

What ??? are u mad man ? ... ive had few oldskool tribes , and going onto silver plastic was not nice .. not to mention the lack of grip .

Still , each to their own eh

FreshHorses · Post by **FreshHorses** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:15 pm

Hey Reddone,
did your machine suffer any ill effects from the knob change, like jitter?

supermel74 · Post by **supermel74** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:02 pm

Borg wrote:The knob switch is complete and here's what it looks like:

(sorry for the lo-res pic)

With the knobs exchanged, it's alot easier to tweak your stuff. It's rubberized which gives you a better, steadier feel of the knobs.
Now I'm just looking for the two knobs that's left - one 20 mm and one 24 mm. But I've figured two 20 mm would do. And I'd like to exchange the arpeggiator thingy. I know where to get knobs, but where do I get my hands on a crossfader-glider-thing?

Where did you get those knobs? What size are they?