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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:36 pm
by peter m. mahr
Nice to have some speculations here..

. I will contribute but the opposite way around.
Yamaha/Cubase, Roland/Cakewalk.. and as sequencers are not a real strength of Korg to me it would be more likely Korg acquiring MOTU ...
Peter
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:09 pm
by Akos Janca
the mega-hype about the Kronos (re-hashing of a 10 years old technology)...
The best to wait until you can try it in person.
It's not a 10-year-old but new technology. Maybe an older (brilliant) idea but who cares. OASYS was already
amazing and still is, Kronos will even be better. The Name has changed

but the concept has improved, too.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:06 pm
by peter m. mahr
In case NORD is acquiring KORG [or vice versa] they just need to change the first and the last letters... if that is not a reasonable argument for an acquisition

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:38 pm
by Bachus
peter m. mahr wrote:Nice to have some speculations here..

. I will contribute but the opposite way around.
Yamaha/Cubase, Roland/Cakewalk.. and as sequencers are not a real strength of Korg to me it would be more likely Korg acquiring MOTU ...
Peter
Korg/Ableton... Now that sounds like a powerhouse to me.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:44 pm
by orpheus2006
There are only a few reasons to lay off employees:
1. Corporate survival.
2. Corporate sale.
3. New management team.
I don't see any other reasons.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:50 pm
by ozy
wild rumours I collected in financial circles
toyota taking over korg = karma would occasionally start itself and run quick arpeggios in out-of-tune scales. Korg president will apologize, recall all synths then release a new version with same bug, but twice the octave span in arpeggios.
korg taking over toyota = toyota would sell 3-wheel Lexus promising to upgrade them to 4 wheels but lather welsh on the promise. 4-wheel lexus would later be released under the "corolla" name at half the price, and with an extra discount - but no discount for loyal lexus customers.
City cars will have mini-wheels, the diameter of a tennis ball
nord taking over korg = the new company would "keep the best of both, trying to emphasize the common points". First step: the name would be NDKG, omitting O and R.
korg taking over nord = the new version of the "stage" would have minikeys. Ditto for the new organ clone. double manual, red, cx3 engine, but 32 minikeys (16 on each manual). And a giant mod wheel.
deutsche boerse taking over korg = Korg headquarters moved to luxembourg, kronos price determined by daily Dow Jones fluctuations [oops! That's already happening...]
goldman sachs taking over korg = Kronos operating system to be hugely expanded and leveraged, 954 engines added, based on the same processor. Will totally crash and burn every three years. Or: will stand up but make all yout other equipment crash and burn monthly. Next Italian, Greek and US Treasury secretary will be a former Korg manager.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:55 pm
by peter m. mahr
what do you think about NORG taking over Briscati and finally delivering ... oops
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:12 pm
by orpheus2006
Rumors are surfacing that Avid and Nord are each in talks with Korg to complete an acquisition of the company.
Do you mean Clavia DMI, Sweden?
I heavily doubt it. That's a rather small company without means.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:23 pm
by vEddY
Bachus wrote:
Korg/Ableton... Now that sounds like a powerhouse to me.
Suggested it, was it 4 years ago, when Roland bought Cakewalk. I don't think this will happen, though.
Here's my view. I'd be really surprised - if and when- they sell the company to a company that's not a japanese company. Too many reasons to count.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:27 pm
by ozy
vEddY wrote:I'd be really surprised if they sell the company to a company that's not a japanese company. Too many reasons to count.
right.
but what about a chinese company?
CME takes over Korg = the kronos manual slims down to 4 pages. online help is in chinese only. Price falls to 150 euros. The workstation is considered a commercial flop because it sells just 1 million pieces in China.
I don't know much about the musical software world, but I know the following:
Microsoft takes over Korg = Korg applications for Apple are immediately discontinued. Windows-ready are not yet ready. Programs and combis are universally compatible among korg products, but copying a patch from a synth to another requires authentication by a microsoft call center in India. You gotta apply a ugly sticker on your kronos each time you buy a hardware expansion. Or you can be sued for millions.
The European Union hates you. Apple users move to yamaha and consider you a loser.
Copying a program from a kronos to another kronos is not always successful, you sometimes need to restart the kronos in "M1 mode", where the LCD resizes to 2 x 25 characters screen, loses touch features and the synth sounds mono. Once you have repaired the glitch, you restart the kronos in "full" mode, and at that points it sometimes requires you to reinstall a driver for the mod wheel.
Bill Gates donates 25.000 microstations to African children.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:40 pm
by vEddY
ozy wrote:vEddY wrote:I'd be really surprised if they sell the company to a company that's not a japanese company. Too many reasons to count.
right.
but what about a chinese
Bill Gates donates 25.000 microstations to African children.
A serious discussion about something with you is obviously like wishing for mama and papa dollar that someone burried in the garden to have 5.000.000 kids. Purely wishful thinking.
Did you get your degree in polluting and trolling in every single thread you contribute to or is it just my "I-just-drove-600-miles-and-didn't-sleep-last-night" eyes seeing things?
I really appericiate your sense of sarcasm and intelligence, man, don't get me wrong. It's just that you're leading every single topic astray with giving precious little in terms of real contributions.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:46 pm
by ozy
vEddY wrote:you're leading every single topic astray with giving precious little in terms of real contributions.
WHAT IS
REAL IN THIS THREAD?!?!?
WHAT ?!??
WHAT ?!?!?
PLEASE,
WHAT?!?!?
Are we back to the "I hope the kronos is a kaosspad with analogue filter", "no, a totally new gizmo without keys but with 88 touchpads" 102-pages charade?!?
When the guy who posted a REAL picture of the REAL kronos 3 days in advance was pooped as a "teenager with bad command of photoshop", while he was the only really knowledgeable forumer?
Come on,
show me how to post a SERIOUS contribution to a WILD GUESS SCENARIO thread.
Show me.
"it will be japanese": really? Not chinese? Not korg buying Cme? Not the other way round? You
KNOW that? Really?
is "ableton will buy korg" more "serious" and founded than "cme will buy korg"?
Or is it bullshit, but of the not-even-comical variety?
Me,
at least I KNOW that it is all just for the sake of chatting.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:01 pm
by EvilDragon
Bachus wrote:I must agree that there is not a single piece of innovation in KRONOS.
Bullshit. Kronos is the first ever workstation to include direct-from-disk sample streaming from onboard SSD. That's a GIANT innovation in the field of synthesizer workstations, right there.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:05 pm
by ozy
EvilDragon wrote:Kronos is the first ever workstation to include direct-from-disk sample streaming from onboard SSD. That's a GIANT innovation in the field of synthesizer workstations, right there.
true.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:05 pm
by cello
EvilDragon wrote:Bachus wrote:I must agree that there is not a single piece of innovation in KRONOS.
Bullshit. Kronos is the first ever workstation to include direct-from-disk sample streaming from onboard SSD. That's a GIANT innovation in the field of synthesizer workstations, right there.
You're right that the SSD is a new dimension -but frankly they could put that in any of their 'in production' HDD machines. So the Kronos maybe the vehicle for the SSD but the overall concept of Kronos is at the very least 6 years old and also uses the entire OASYS OS.
So, more broadly speaking, there is nothing innovative about the Kronos.