Radiation tainted Kronos?

peter_schwartz · Post by **peter_schwartz** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:21 am

There's not much wrong with nuclear energy, except when things go wrong. Whether it's human error or a natural disaster, it's easier for those not at "ground zero" of an energy-related catastrophe to escape the short (and long) term effects of an oil spill than radioactive contamination. I can make a point of not buying atlantic seafood (i.e., BP/Gulf of Mexico) but unless I go to the expense of buying a Geiger counter I'll have no way of altering myself to an encounter with radioactive goods.

Then again, I could dine at a non-GMO-oriented restaurant and end up with some genetically modified food on my plate. But how pervasive are any one person's efforts to try and re-shape the world back to a point where you don't have to worry about really basic s**t, like the integrity of what you eat?

So in terms of nuclear power, as long as there are going to be accidents and human error, it's probably the least viable form of energy in terms of recoverability from an accident.

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StephenKay · Post by **StephenKay** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:26 am

peter_schwartz wrote:I can make a point of not buying atlantic seafood (i.e., BP/Gulf of Mexico) but unless I go to the expense of buying a Geiger counter I'll have no way of altering me to an encounter with radioactive goods.

Just read an article today about how most restaurants around the country are now serving BP/Gulf of Mexico seafood, and not promoting it as as such, or calling it something else. Surprised?

So in terms of nuclear power, as long as there are going to be accidents and human error, it's probably the least viable form of energy in terms of recoverability from an accident.

Not worried. We need energy. Again, I direct you to my question: what would be worse? 20 + oil rigs in the sea off of Japan totally destroyed and spewing oil into the ocean, or the current nuclear situation (which, so far as I read it) is not so bad?

peter_schwartz · Post by **peter_schwartz** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:40 am

StephenKay wrote:Just read an article today about how most restaurants around the country are now serving BP/Gulf of Mexico seafood, and not promoting it as as such, or calling it something else. Surprised?

Sadly, no...

Not worried. We need energy. Again, I direct you to my question: what would be worse? 20 + oil rigs in the sea off of Japan totally destroyed and spewing oil into the ocean, or the current nuclear situation (which, so far as I read it) is not so bad?

To me, it's not a matter of one being a worse catastrophe than the other. The consequences of either are dire, just with different characteristics. But if I had to choose, I'd choose the oil spill:

• they occur mainly away from people's homes, and don't generally cause the environment around them to become so toxic that they're no longer inhabitable

• oil spillage generally doesn't blow around the world in a toxic cloud

• the half-life of oil isn't some umpteen billion years

• radiation is a known cause of cancer, which used to be called "consumption". I'd rather not be so consumed if I can help avoid it.

I think that everyone should have a very healthy fear of radiation and radioactive materials. But yes, if I had to choose, I'd prefer to see an oil spill.

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:58 am

MoonMusic wrote:I know it's probably a stupid question but is it possible the new units coming into the US will have radiation? Please don't laugh at my stupidity either because I'm being serious...OK....Go ahead and laugh a little bit....moon

US Navy today declared that radiation level on the vessels used for Tsunami rescue in the Fukushima prefecture is so low that it can be washed out using water and soap.

Wash your Kronos and you'll be fine.

The step-by-step procedure is at page 8320 of the reference guide,

but in a nutshell it is: soap, rinse, repeat

You better not use the same water for shampooing your hamster though.

EXer · Post by **EXer** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:01 am

MoonMusic wrote:I know it's probably a stupid question but is it possible the new units coming into the US will have radiation? Please don't laugh at my stupidity either because I'm being serious...OK....Go ahead and laugh a little bit....moon

Yes, of course, they will be strongly radioactive, which is a great advantage on stage: you'll be able to read the positions of the faders and of the knobs instantly in the dark.

And if you buy a Kronos from the 1st production batch, i.e. before the radiation level sinks in Japan, you'll have a true collector that you'll be able to resell later for much more money than an Oasys. But don't keep it too long: after about 400 years the beautiful green-bluish glowing of the panel which makes the instrument look so attractive in the dark will fade away as the radio active elements will lose their properties, and so will your collector lose value...

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synthguy · Post by **synthguy** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:35 am

peter_schwartz wrote:I find a distinct bent in a lot of the media towards downplaying the seriousness of the radiation emissions and radioactive contamination in general.

Where the heck do you get this?? I agree with Steve. We have people afraid to touch a keyboard made in Japan because of... what? Email chains? I think not.

jemkeys25 · Post by **jemkeys25** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:41 am

radioactive material accur naturally in nature, where do you think they get the fuel rods in the first place, granite countertops give off radiation, the sun gives off radiation, power lines give off radiation, x-rays, ect. ect., the people closest to the reactors have the most to worry about, so relax, someday something will kill you, but you only have to die once.

peter_schwartz · Post by **peter_schwartz** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:43 am

synthguy wrote:Where the heck do you get this??

[puzzled] What do you mean "where the heck?" I gave one example. Would it help if I provided a few more?

I agree with Steve. We have people afraid to touch a keyboard made in Japan because of... what? Email chains? I think not.

We have one person who expressed some reservation here in the forum. So how does he turn into "people"? See, this is how things get blown out of proportion.

Truth be told, I don't understand what you're trying to say. I'm talking about the media and you're talking about someone's post? [puzzled again]

But one thing that's indisputable: Stephen doesn't like to be called "Steve".

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:57 am

synthguy wrote:We have people afraid to touch a keyboard made in Japan because of... what? Email chains?

emails from Japan are radioactive?!?

Any news about e-mails from Canada? Are the Canadian Viagra bulk e-mails safe? Or is that radioactive as well?

Boy, we live in a dangerous world...

jemkeys25 · Post by **jemkeys25** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:46 am

there's a cost to energy, and without it a korg kronos would make a nice wall decoration, and we'd be posting by carrier pigeon.

peter_schwartz · Post by **peter_schwartz** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:00 pm

There was a human cost to packing meat and pickles back in Chicago in 1902, which, after Upton Sinclair pubished "The Jungle" eventually led to the formation of the FDA. My point being that the status quo doesn't inherently suggest that it is a legitimate institution.

EnjoyRC · Post by **EnjoyRC** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:06 pm

peter_schwartz wrote:Though aside from the singularly mentioned radioactive Kronii, shouldn't we also be worried about other radioactive imports from Japan? I mean, what about...

• sake & beer
• cars
• Hello Kitty goods
• Pocki and all of those cool Japanese candies you get at the Asian market
• Roland stuff
• Yamaha stuff, including motorcycles, outboard motors, pianos, and band instruments
• origami paper
• anything at all made in Japan, even if it's made hundreds of miles away from the nuclear disaster zone

What about Sushi?

Pepperpotty · Post by **Pepperpotty** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:39 pm

ozy wrote:
synthguy wrote:We have people afraid to touch a keyboard made in Japan because of... what? Email chains?
emails from Japan are radioactive?!?

Any news about e-mails from Canada? Are the Canadian Viagra bulk e-mails safe? Or is that radioactive as well?

Boy, we live in a dangerous world...

Yes Ozy, the emails may be radioactive. I'm sure you're aware that emails can spread viruses? Well now they have made them so that they can carry radiation too. If you open an email that is radioactive then not only will you become infected, but it will also email itself to all of the contacts in your address book causing them to be infected with radiation too.

iixorbiusii · Post by **iixorbiusii** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:16 pm

Pepperpotty wrote:... If you open an email that is radioactive then not only will you become infected, but it will also email itself to all of the contacts in your address book causing them to be infected with radiation too.

..and some people would actually fall for that! I remember when the Y2K 'bug' was going to cripple the world (

), I had a colleague who was adamant she'd not be able to get to work after the New Year... why? She really believed that because her car had a digital clock in it, her car would be rendered useless from 00:00 on 1.1.00 !

T7 · Post by T7 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:29 pm

peter_schwartz wrote:
• radiation is a known cause of cancer, which used to be called "consumption". I'd rather not be so consumed if I can help avoid it.

Actually, consumption was used to describe wasting away from tuberculosis. Just sayin'.

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