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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:37 am
by sparkie
Wonderful!! Data wheel must be a problem then.. I get mine tomorrow and will check it out. Hard to believe it wasnt noticed before they were tested, packed and shipped.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:56 am
by Chriskk
I've owned many, many synths since 1988. None of them had an issue with a data slider or wheel. The data wheel (and the vector joystick) of the Kronos feels like a part of a dirt cheap toy made in China. There's no excuse for using such a cheap part given the Kronos prices.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:01 am
by Devnor
Played a Kronos 61 tonight at GC. The datawheel does feel flimsy. This one was little off-center too as it sort of rolled around the panel. I can see if you used the edge to move the wheel it could pop out. It feels as if they really went cheap when it came to the control surface of the instrument. This along with RH3 keybed issues on other boards isn't giving me the warm & fuzzies about my preorder.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:29 am
by orpheus2006
Gargamel314 wrote:I wonder if the 73 and the 88 will have the same problem...
I can't remember exactly, but either the 73 or 88 keyboard shown at Musikmesse had the same issue. The sliders also came off of one of those keyboards. I asked a Korg representative about it, but he just replied I shouldn't quibble, the Kronos is a fantastic workstation.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:14 am
by taurgo Production
the Krazy glue fixed the problem!

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:31 am
by taurgo Production
I love this keyboard it's very addictive, I didn't even want to send it in for repairs. It's hard to let this board go. Thank God it was able to be fixed.
There's nothing a little glue can't fix. Korg also used glue for this part
i just went over the pattern they already had did.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:46 am
by jahrome
Well at least I have company now. lol

I can't even use my data wheel without it popping out. It seems like me sending it in to Korg will result in them just glueing it back on. It probably isn't worth the effort...

But they do know that this is a terrible...terrible design flaw. Why would anyone with any common sense use double-sided tape to keep a major hardware component in place? Kronos' data wheel should be designed the same way its knobs are designed. Underneath the data wheel should be a long cylinder shaft (male). The data wheel (female) should slide down the shaft and remain in place.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:00 am
by taurgo Production
yeah all the knobs should be the done the same way.

jahrome: try the glue it works.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:24 pm
by sparkie
jahrome wrote:Well at least I have company now. lol

I can't even use my data wheel without it popping out. It seems like me sending it in to Korg will result in them just glueing it back on. It probably isn't worth the effort...

But they do know that this is a terrible...terrible design flaw. Why would anyone with any common sense use double-sided tape to keep a major hardware component in place? Kronos' data wheel should be designed the same way its knobs are designed. Underneath the data wheel should be a long cylinder shaft (male). The data wheel (female) should slide down the shaft and remain in place.
So..you mean the data wheel knob is held in place with "Double-sided tape" ?? Are you serious?? OMG..What the...

I wonder what the inside looks like?? probably bread bag twist ties, rubber bands, tape, paper clips and modeling clay... LOL.......

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:38 pm
by Lou
Good one sparkie! :lol:

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:46 pm
by orpheus2006
sparkie wrote:So..you mean the data wheel knob is held in place with "Double-sided tape" ?? Are you serious?? OMG..What the...

I wonder what the inside looks like?? probably bread bag twist ties, rubber bands, tape, paper clips and modeling clay... LOL.......
Looks like product developers didn't investigate how people use the data wheel in the real world? :roll:

"You know how to dial, don't you? You just put your finger in the hole and make tiny little circles."

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:17 pm
by dustymaestro
Could you take a pic and post the data wheel and shaft?

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:24 pm
by blinkofanI
I would definately not put Krazy Glue on such a synth. A better idea might be to put just one layer of teflon tape on the pin or inside the anchor of the wheel. That would give just a little more grip to the system. If your keyboard needs to be serviced and the wheel is glued, you're screwed...

Blink

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:32 pm
by taurgo Production
how can you post pic's? On a mac?

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:46 pm
by Lou
taurgo Production wrote:how can you post pic's? On a mac?
You must post it to your sever or something like Photo Bucket that has a link. etc.
KF does not allow posting pictures on their server.