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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:02 pm
by ChristianRock
I just wonder... what would happen if you swapped that 2Gb memory with a 4Gb? ;)

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:04 pm
by robinkle
EvilDragon wrote:
robinkle wrote:
ScoobyDoo555 wrote:Thought it was a PCI slot - was more intrigued about how/if Korg was to use it......

Dan 8)
Let's hope Korg will take the advantage of the slot, and add even more features to come. :)
Nah, they most likely won't. I can't see any benefit in doing that. The most you could get is 4 GB of RAM and that's it.
You can add a RAM drive. It's expencive though, but you basically have a PCI express card with ram slots on it and it will be a working hardrive with extreme speeds. Could be fast enaugh to work as ram?. ;O. maby add a Disk controller to add more SSD's. But I agree, it won't happen.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:05 pm
by donjuancarlos
Omigosh, so who's a hacker around here? How about mouse and external monitor support? Not that I would ever condone such underhanded actions...

Too bad no mention of the SSD being used. I'm wondering if it is an older slower model (like the one I have in My Lenovo T400) and if boot times could be improved by swapping out the SSD...

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:08 pm
by robinkle
donjuancarlos wrote:Omigosh, so who's a hacker around here? How about mouse and external monitor support? Not that I would ever condone such underhanded actions...

Too bad no mention of the SSD being used. I'm wondering if it is an older slower model (like the one I have in My Lenovo T400) and if boot times could be improved by swapping out the SSD...
I hope Krog didn't forget to enable TRIM feature for the SSD or the Kronos SSD will get slower over time.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:10 pm
by EvilDragon
ChristianRock wrote:I just wonder... what would happen if you swapped that 2Gb memory with a 4Gb? ;)
Probably nothing (needs to have 4 GB RAM support enabled in the OS).

It's better to fill it with 2x2 GB, though, instead of one 4 GB module.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:11 pm
by EvilDragon
robinkle wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:
robinkle wrote: Let's hope Korg will take the advantage of the slot, and add even more features to come. :)
Nah, they most likely won't. I can't see any benefit in doing that. The most you could get is 4 GB of RAM and that's it.
You can add a RAM drive. It's expencive though, but you basically have a PCI express card with ram slots on it and it will be a working hardrive with extreme speeds. Could be fast enaugh to work as ram?. ;O. maby add a Disk controller to add more SSD's. But I agree, it won't happen.
Those would probably need to be supported from Kronos' OS. So... probably not gonna happen.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:12 pm
by EvilDragon
donjuancarlos wrote:Too bad no mention of the SSD being used. I'm wondering if it is an older slower model (like the one I have in My Lenovo T400) and if boot times could be improved by swapping out the SSD...
It's a Toshiba SSD, as danatkorg mentioned somewhere on this board. And Toshiba didn't produce a new generation SSD in quite a while, so it's probably one of those under-200 MB/s SSDs...

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:22 pm
by JimH
The fact that there are things like unused PCI slots sounds to me like maybe it's an off-the-shelf motherboard rather then their own layout and assembly. Maybe it's cheaper and easier that way. Otherwise, why would they pay for unused components? This stuff is probably not supported by the O/S.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:23 pm
by donjuancarlos
And the fan is cooling the SSD? Well, maybe it's pulling air off of the power supply as well...

I'm going to have a really tough time holding myself back from swapping out the Mini-ITX board+Processor with something more powerful to see what happens...

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:31 pm
by EvilDragon
JimH wrote:The fact that there are things like unused PCI slots sounds to me like maybe it's an off-the-shelf motherboard rather then their own layout and assembly. Maybe it's cheaper and easier that way. Otherwise, why would they pay for unused components? This stuff is probably not supported by the O/S.
Intel D510 is an EMBEDDED processor. "Embedded" means that it comes with motherboard with all the connectivity there is: PCI Express, LAN, VGA, onboard sound, etc. So yeah, it's an off-the-shelf CPU. :) And yes, it is cheaper that way.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:31 pm
by EvilDragon
donjuancarlos wrote:I'm going to have a really tough time holding myself back from swapping out the Mini-ITX board+Processor with something more powerful to see what happens...
Nothing will happen. In fact, most likely your Kronos won't even boot up in case you do that.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:32 pm
by jaimonj
This is why I love KORG. They are not into re inventing the wheel. Take the best that's out there and in-cooperate it. I love the way they think.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:37 pm
by EvilDragon
...except D510 is definitely by far NOT the best low-power embedded system CPU that's out there. ;)

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:53 pm
by operaman
EvilDragon wrote:It's a PCI Express slot (1x, most likely). Probably will be left unused, unless Korg would allow nVidia/AMD graphics cards to run Kronos graphics (but there doesn't seem to be enough room for that). :lol::lol::lol:
The open slot in the picture is indeed pci.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:57 pm
by donjuancarlos
EvilDragon wrote:...except D510 is definitely by far NOT the best low-power embedded system CPU that's out there. ;)
After reading more of the teardown, I see other processors and not a lot of major connections (except to RAM and hard disk), which makes me wonder what the primary function of the Atom is, and if the system would be hamstrung by other processors, if one were to drop a faster processor in there.