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Post by engineerjoel »

I work in a pro audio store that is a Korg dealer. Although, I don't own the SV-1, I do hear a lot of feed back from customers who have purchased the SV-1 (either the 88 or 73 key version).

The #1 complaint is the bad keybed--say that it is sluggishly-slow (can't play super fast licks--notes don't retrigger as fast as Yamaha Motif or S-series keyboards. Also, I'm hearing that keys often stick as if someone accidentally spilled syrup on the keys...the sticking keys often occur after the keyboard has been transported--not laying horizontally flat.


ONCE the keybed issue gets fixed..then...here is a short list of improvements I'd like to see on the SV-2:

1). Make a "flat top" version to be able to stack another keyboard or midi controller or Laptop.

2). Add real draw bars so to change organ registers.

3). Add a "MIDI ON/OFF" button next the existing "Local On/Off" button. This way you could use the midi-out to trigger external sound modules and be able to turn the Midi Transmit On/OFF on-the-fly.

4) Add a volume foot pedal input that is designed to control midi volume of external midi sound sources. AND/OR add a Volume Knob that is designed to control midi volume.

5). Able to layer/split two different patches and store them as a Combi.


6). Update the Piano sounds to at least be on the level of the kronos (or Motif)

7). Add a bank of vintage MOOG Leads/brass/pads

8). Add a bank of vintage Prophet 5 Leads/Syncs/brass

9) add a bank of vintage MONO/POLY synth sounds

10) add a bank of vintage Oberheim Leads/syncs/brass/strings

11) add a bank of vintage Roland JP-8/MKS-80 Brass/Leads/Strings.


PLEASE!!!
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Post by xp50player »

Adding all these things would make it an entirely different instrument and much more expensive. Sounds like you want a Nord Stage. I like having all the other sounds on my Kronos 61 instead, because who wants to play B3 and synth lead sounds from a weighted action? I think the simplicity and lack of display/menus makes it more future-proof, more like a classic instrument. Its bulbous looks make it unwieldy, but remind me of the Coupland prototype synth of the 70's.

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It wouldn't be too expensive

Post by kbeaumont »

The changes needed for most people are really easy.

1) Change/improve the keybed!
2) Upgrade the pianos to the ones in Kronos/Krome
3) +1000 on the midi off button!
4) Make the volume midi
5) Use a better amp model! Or at least make the drive not be so damn sensitive. It hard to add subtle overdrive using it. The current one is only suitable for John Lord!

Maybe make 10 presets instead of 8! Most of these are all available on Korgs cheaper products! There are fine models available on their guitar pedals and a Krome 61 is under a grand!
The keys are the hardest part, but it looks like they changed the action on Krome. So the R&D cost have already been done. I haven't played the new action but I hope its better and more reliable! On a weighted board I don't care about synth sounds or even organ. So I really don't need synth sounds or even drawbars. A more realistic horn section sound in addition to the synth brass would be nice. What's in there is fine, and I can always use a 2 tier stand. The dedicated stand could use improvement, maybe adjustable to allow standing! The SV1 is a fine instrument with lots of soul. Relatively minor tweaks could make it great!
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Post by xp50player »

The action on the Krome is the lesser NH Natural Hammer action, which is also on the SP-170 digital piano. Not an improvement.
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Too Bad

Post by kbeaumont »

I had hoped it would be better. Maybe they could hire someone from CASIO. Its a shame a calculator company can put a fully weighted, light weight hammer action on a $500 piano and Korg can't even manage it on a $3k Kronos!

Seems Korg only knows how to do mini keys now.
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Re: It wouldn't be too expensive

Post by oy5t3h »

kbeaumont wrote:The dedicated stand could use improvement, maybe adjustable to allow standing!
Seeing as the original SV-1 stand was adjustable, and they changed it to a non-adjustable version (for the same price) when the Black SV-1 came out, I think it's highly unlikely that they'll be going back to an adjustable stand again.
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Re: Too Bad

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kbeaumont wrote:...CASIO... a calculator company...
Ooh! Meeeow! ;)

The new PX-350 is a fantastic instrument. Decent sounds, great keybed, and LIGHT! That alone would earn Casio the right to be called a musical instrument company - even if they hadn't made the CZ-series back when.
And of course, the XW-P1.

And they're gearing for a launch of something new at NAMM. I reckon there's at least one major Japanese synth brand (not Korg, of course) that's in danger of getting embarrassed by Casio's newly rediscovered enthusiasm for the musical instrument market.
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Post by javaj »

Based on reading the rom file in a text editor- I would say they could easily add more sounds- as they reference drums already (I would bet this is a modified version of an existing keyboard os- so maybe the reference was just left in there).
Also, this thing has a 512mb ROM- that is awesome considering most other keyboard (not Krome of course). I am sure they could update the ROM and add additional backing/lead sounds- but would that take away from the "vintage" goal of the SV-1.

Flat top- yeah- I could find that usefull- except that it would destroy the finish of the cover- which is very easy to damage in the first place. So lets stick with the same design.

Adjust the panel location- way too easy to smack a favorite key when playing crazy (or not).

Allow input to be routed to effects- that would be cool (but likely impossible to deal with as you would then want to have separate control over that).

Improve how the stand connects to the SV- it's easy to install- but even easier to mess it up (always forgetting which way the stand needs to face). Would love to see a simple click/locking mechanism to make it quicker to setup.

Case- great case- but soft and akward to deal with due to the SV's hump. Not even sure how to address that.

Would love to see other color options.
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Motivation

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Ooh! Meeeow! Wink

The new PX-350 is a fantastic instrument. Decent sounds, great keybed, and LIGHT! That alone would earn Casio the right to be called a musical instrument company - even if they hadn't made the CZ-series back when.
And of course, the XW-P1. [/quote]
I guess I was trying to motivate them by stepping on their egos.
I have an XW-P1 and a Privia in addition to a Kurzweil SP4-7 and Yamaha MOX8. I consider casio to be the one to watch!

I really like my SV1-73 I don't believe that Korg realizes how much their key beds have hurt their sales. Just browsing the PW, KSS and KC forums should give them a clue.
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Re: Motivation

Post by RogerL »

kbeaumont wrote:

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Ooh! Meeeow! Wink

The new PX-350 is a fantastic instrument. Decent sounds, great keybed, and LIGHT! That alone would earn Casio the right to be called a musical instrument company - even if they hadn't made the CZ-series back when.
And of course, the XW-P1. [/quote]
I guess I was trying to motivate them by stepping on their egos.
I have an XW-P1 and a Privia in addition to a Kurzweil SP4-7 and Yamaha MOX8. I consider casio to be the one to watch!

I really like my SV1-73 I don't believe that Korg realizes how much their key beds have hurt their sales. Just browsing the PW, KSS and KC forums should give them a clue.
I may be wrong but I thought that the SV-1 uses the same keyboard as the Kronos (the RH-3). On the Kronos folder there is a 96 page long thread about all the problems with the RH-3, that finally seemed to be resolved by Korg in late 2012 by adding some rubber stops (or something) as a retro-fix. So, in my opinion, all that needs to happen is for new SV-1s (or hopefully new SV-2s) to just use the new and improved (i.e. fixed) RH-3 keyboard. This seems to satisfy the Kronos folks (who are understandably demanding given their investment and they seem to be pretty professional players on that thread) so it will be good enough for me. Then like others have said, add a couple of Kronos pianos and maybe a couple of other small fixes and the "SV-2" would be an awesome amazing keyboard. I like the dials and sliders approach of the SV-1 since I dont like to figure out programming and menu layers since I only play for fun and that feels like too much effort. I personally dont care about color or style as much, basic black is fine by me.

The SV-1 is awesome but I am really hoping Korg can make a few small tweaks and make the SV-2 even better. Just a few of the Kronos piano sounds is the main thing. Then I will be lining up to buy it!

I really hope its at the upcoming NAMM2013 show, I really dont want to have to wait another year (I was hoping for this last year). I would probably break down and get a different keyboard with better piano sounds from some other maker if Korg doesnt make any real upgrades (last year was all cosmetic). The SV-1 came out in 2009 I think so its been a few years, its due.
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engineerjoel wrote:I work in a pro audio store that is a Korg dealer. Although, I don't own the SV-1, I do hear a lot of feed back from customers who have purchased the SV-1 (either the 88 or 73 key version).

The #1 complaint is the bad keybed--say that it is sluggishly-slow (can't play super fast licks--notes don't retrigger as fast as Yamaha Motif or S-series keyboards. Also, I'm hearing that keys often stick as if someone accidentally spilled syrup on the keys...the sticking keys often occur after the keyboard has been transported--not laying horizontally flat.


ONCE the keybed issue gets fixed..then...here is a short list of improvements I'd like to see on the SV-2:

1). Make a "flat top" version to be able to stack another keyboard or midi controller or Laptop.

2). Add real draw bars so to change organ registers.

3). Add a "MIDI ON/OFF" button next the existing "Local On/Off" button. This way you could use the midi-out to trigger external sound modules and be able to turn the Midi Transmit On/OFF on-the-fly.

4) Add a volume foot pedal input that is designed to control midi volume of external midi sound sources. AND/OR add a Volume Knob that is designed to control midi volume.

5). Able to layer/split two different patches and store them as a Combi.


6). Update the Piano sounds to at least be on the level of the kronos (or Motif)

7). Add a bank of vintage MOOG Leads/brass/pads

8). Add a bank of vintage Prophet 5 Leads/Syncs/brass

9) add a bank of vintage MONO/POLY synth sounds

10) add a bank of vintage Oberheim Leads/syncs/brass/strings

11) add a bank of vintage Roland JP-8/MKS-80 Brass/Leads/Strings.


PLEASE!!!

Or just simply buy a Nord stage 2!

I accept the SV-1's short comings(thats why I opted for a NS2 as well) but its still a cracking Stage Piano,and even though I also have a NS2 the SV-1 will still be an integral part of my setup.

its a no frills excellent piece of kit.I've experienced no problems at all with it,I've had it for almost 2 years and gigged with it several times,its as reliable as anything I've ever owned from Korg,keybed is fine on mine although its not as responsive and perhaps luxurious as the NS2 keybed,But at its price point you wouldn't expect it to compete or have the same functions as a Nord Stage,I'm sure if Korg made it to have all those functions listed,some would complain about the price,with the SV concept you either gel with it or you don't,I just wish Korg made more "Back to basics" instruments for the performer
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Post by engineerjoel »

Forget the keyed/Keyboard problem......I'd love to just have SV-2R....the rack version. I've got a Yamaha KX-88 controller that plays just fine....I really don't need another keyboard.

SV-2R...Please!
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Wishlist Addition

Post by innerspectrum »

Alongside the aforementioned keybed upgrade and addition of Kronos pianos, the most valuable addition for me would be basic USB audio, along with pitchbend and mod. Strange as it seems, the SV1 is a near-perfect keyboard for my common band needs, and would be the only keyboard I need if it gave me audio in/out functionality so that I could run a backing track, record, or bring up a few synth sounds or Kontakt specialties (hopefully utilizing pitchbend and mod for added control).

Korg, I know these requests seem crazy, but if they are somehow worked into the SV2 (assuming it is on the horizon), you will have not only made my day, but gotten yourself one more satisfied customer.

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I know that the Kronos would fit the bill just fine, but the SV1's portability and simplicity give it a considerable edge in this situation. Also, the Kronos is quite costly (however rewarding it may be).
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