30 GB SSD too small ? - You can upgrade it !

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Post by Dreamland »

Hi,
could those of you, who have upgraded their SSD drive, give the precise type (name, size etc) of your new drive, so one knows for sure, which drives are working in the Kronos?
Thanks,
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Dreamland wrote:Hi,
could those of you, who have upgraded their SSD drive, give the precise type (name, size etc) of your new drive, so one knows for sure, which drives are working in the Kronos?
Thanks,
Hermann
I´ve done the upgrade with a

GSkill Falcon 128 GB, SATA-300, Buffer 64 MB

see here, for example:
http://www.esl-shop.net/shop/Hardware/F ... vp_id=g_sh
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Re: 30 GB SSD too small ? - You can upgrade it !

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Dniss wrote:
MRedZac wrote:Take away the original SSD from the Kronos and place your bigger SSD instead. If the new SSD is also faster, you´ll gain some small amount of speed later on while booting up the Kronos and for saving files to it. The original SSD has 180 MB/s read and 80 MB/s write, so everything faster than this will work for sure.
Funny, I thought the bottleneck wasn't the SSD.
The bottleneck is SATA II data transfer bus bandwidth, which goes to 300 MB/s max in best-case-scenario. However, I don't think the feeble Atom CPU can cope with that kind of throughput at a constant rate.
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Re: 30 GB SSD too small ? - You can upgrade it !

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I'm not really up on the most current SSD's. So I came across this one hoping someone more knowledgeable in this area could advise me on one that is quality and reliable. Here's the link:

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other+Wo ... /SSDMX120/

THANKS!!
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Is there any advice of how to open the Kronos? There are quite a lot of screws. Is it neccesary to loosen them all?
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Dreamland wrote:Is there any advice of how to open the Kronos? There are quite a lot of screws. Is it neccesary to loosen them all?
Thanks!
Hello Dreamland,

yes, all silver screws on the bottom have to be taken away and be careful if you put them back again: It´s easy to overwind them, if you are doing it too hard...
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KorgKeymaster wrote:I'm not really up on the most current SSD's. So I came across this one hoping someone more knowledgeable in this area could advise me on one that is quality and reliable. Here's the link:

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other+Wo ... /SSDMX120/

THANKS!!
OWC is generally great.
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Post by kbrkr »

Food for thought....

I have an 8 month old SSD; OCZ Agility 2 180g in my main desktop computer which just died on me. The jury is still out on reliability on these drives. I'm contemplating going back to a hard disk or maybe a Hybrid.
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SSDs are usually extremely reliable... In general, OCZ, Intel, Samsung are preferred brands, with Sandforce or Samsung controllers.

I did hear that some OCZ models tend to die prematurely, but not all.
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EvilDragon wrote:SSDs are usually extremely reliable... In general, OCZ, Intel, Samsung are preferred brands, with Sandforce or Samsung controllers.

I did hear that some OCZ models tend to die prematurely, but not all.
what specs should I be looking for at min.?
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EvilDragon wrote:
KorgKeymaster wrote:I'm not really up on the most current SSD's. So I came across this one hoping someone more knowledgeable in this area could advise me on one that is quality and reliable. Here's the link:

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other+Wo ... /SSDMX120/

THANKS!!
OWC is generally great.
I use one of their latest 160 gig 6G as the main drive in my MacBook, another of the 320 gig 3G replaced my optical drive and I have another of their 320 gig external drives via FireWire 800 for my EastWest libraries.

The drives have been great and have my Mac running seamlessly. A full boot up only takes 20 seconds on my Mac. Good warranty too.
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KorgKeymaster wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:SSDs are usually extremely reliable... In general, OCZ, Intel, Samsung are preferred brands, with Sandforce or Samsung controllers.

I did hear that some OCZ models tend to die prematurely, but not all.
what specs should I be looking for at min.?
I just told you - basically the controller is the most important. If it's not SandForce or Samsung, it's inferior. Everything else is way above any regular hard drive, performance-wise.
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Post by irtehyar »

This is great to know! It's definitely been on my "want to do"" list since the first day I got it and flash-drived a set of samples and loops into it. Will be nice to just drop them all on the drive and leave em.
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Post by Kevin Nolan »

Excuse my ignorance - but what do you mean by

160 gig 6G

320 gig 3G


what's the 6G and 3G?


Also - are there temperature / fan implications

And - were there any calibration issues of controllers and touch screen to worry about after the complete reinstall?


Thanks,
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Post by cello »

I think it refers to 3 Gb per second and 6Gb per second.
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