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robbinhood wrote:Not sure how I feel about this
First and foremost it is by far the worst product video ever. Even the musicians seem generally meh'd (or still blown away by the kronos they have backstage..)

The keyboard looks like a glorified X50 (judging by the back panel)

the screen lags

they give lower paying customers a capacitive touch screen? wahh! and piano roll!!!!!!!! what!

It's a completely different interface, although I wonder if this means that things like piano roll editor (and auto power off?) might be more realistic future capabilities of the Kronos.

And, does this compete against the SV-1?

My impression is that the Krome is to Kronos as the M50 is to the M3.

This is meant to be a "light" entry level keyboard for people looking for Kronos sounds in a more affordable package. I assume rather than giving the user the actual sound engines, the user gets PCM representations of certain Kronos sounds.

Do you think this changes the 2nd hand price of m3 or even kronos units?

apex wrote:

burningbusch wrote:Pricing will be the question. Will it be priced closer to the M3 or the M50?

Busch.

There will be some dissapoonted Kronos owners if the priceis closer to m50.... Believe that

I don't see any problem with a new choice. You have to expect , over time, for a MI company to intro a new , somewhat simpler product, with a few more bells and whistles.

It's called change. Most accept it. It's a business when you get down to it.

I sold my m3m May 2011. That was a fairly easy move.

apex wrote:Do you think this changes the 2nd hand price of m3 or even kronos units?

I wouldn't think that used Kronos prices would be affected. M3 value is probably more an issue of age of the platform at this point. Now a used m50 might lose some value since this keyboard will likely compete in that space.

This is an M50 replacement.

apex wrote:Do you think this changes the 2nd hand price of m3 or even kronos units?

Not at all for Kronos. You don't have the "blank page" sound generation capability, for one.

BillW wrote:This is an M50 replacement.

That's my impression as well. Something to go against the Yamaha MOX.

Busch.

Bravo Korg!

Finally they have massively improved the GUI! Now they offer drag&drop for the touchscreen and editing of parameters directly on the touchscreen and the Sequencer looks much better and improved!
There are finally velocity meters for each track, resp. timbre available, etc.

I think the KROME hardware design looks better than the Kronos design, but this is just my subjective opinion. But I think Korg has learned from the Kronos hardware problems...

It's just a question of time, until Kronos users will realize what just happened (OASYS users already know...) and soon they will begin to cry for all of those KROME improvements of the GUI and the Sequencer, which handling looks really great in the videos:

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Dany wrote:It's just a question of time, until Kronos users will realize what just happened (OASYS users already know...) and soon they will begin to cry for all of those KROME improvements of the GUI and the Sequencer, which handling looks really great in the videos

I figure Kronos will have at least one more major UI upgrade that would hopefully borrow from some of the Krome development.

meh =/ its HD-1 in a keyboard. I guess its good for those who want just HD-1...

Lol I just saw the rappers delight preset from the m3....so maybe its the m3 sound set with kronos piano (or at least a similar)....

Its says there is just under 4gb of samples.... so maybe its the exs2 (piano) exs3 (brass) .....all the hd-1 stuff. And a "version" of what we have in our kronos piano.

I'm not mad at them at all. God job korg. Staying ahead of and setting the bar.

apex...

"o" that typo!<vbg>

Ten2One

plisken wrote:meh =/ its HD-1 in a keyboard. I guess its good for those who want just HD-1...

No, KROME has the new EDS-X Synthesis (Enhanced Definition Synthesis-eXpanded)

So HD-1 is still better.

KROME has just 120 Voices poly.

PCM memory 3.8Gbyte (when converted to 48kHz · 16-bit linear PCM).

"Googlish" from the Specifications from Korg Japan website:

KROME Specifications
Keyboard semi-weighted Natural Touch (non-velocity-sensitive aftertouch)
(Adjustable in the range [C1 ... C6] ~ of [C3 ... C8]) C2 ~ C7 standard
Keyboard KROME-73 semi-weighted Natural Touch (non-velocity-sensitive aftertouch)
(Adjustable in the range [C0 ... C6] ~ of [C2 ... C8]) C1 ~ C7 standard "
Keyboard KROME-88 NH (Natural Weighted Hammer Action) (non-velocity-sensitive aftertouch)
(Adjustable in the range [A-1 ... C7] ~ of [A1 ... C9]) A0 ~ C8 standard
NH * keyboard, in the bass section is a keyboard that reproduces the touch of an acoustic piano to be lighter in the treble heavy.
System EDS-X (Enhanced Definition Synthesis-eXpanded)

The sound source
Up to 120 voice polyphony number at (120 oscillators) single-mode
60 Voice at (120 oscillators) double-mode
* The maximum number of voices, change the number of actual pronunciation stereo multi-samples and velocity crossfading, by the setting of the oscillator.
PCM memory 3.8Gbyte (when converted to 48kHz · 16-bit linear PCM)
(Including seven stereo) 1,077 multi-sample
(Including 116 stereo units) 1,609 drum samples
Program oscillator OSC1 (Single), OSC1 +2 (Double): Stereo-enabled multi-sample
Velocity switching / crossfading / layering stage 8 per oscillator can be
Filters Four types of filter routing (single, serial, parallel, 24dB)
Two multi-mode filters (low pass, high pass, band pass, band reject) per oscillator
One group of non-linear driver and low-boost driver per voice
EQ 3-band EQ (mid center frequency is adjustable)
Per oscillator modulation two envelope generators (Filter & Amp),
Group 2 LFO, two key tracking generators (Filter & Amp),
Other group 2 AMS mixers, Pitch EG, common LFO,
Two common key tracking generators
16 Maximum number of timbre timbre combination, keyboard / velocity split / layer / crossfade,
The program can be changed by setting the Tone Adjust function
Control of external MIDI device can be a master keyboard function
Assignment of the drum kit stereo / mono drum samples can be
8-stage velocity switching (with crossfading / layering)
Combination / program / user combination drum kit combination 512/288 preload
User programs 768 programs / 640 preload
48 user drum kit drum kit / 32 preload
Preset programs: 256GM2 +9 GM2 preset programs Preset drum program

Effect
5 lines insert effects, stereo input and output
Two master, stereo input and output
Total effect one system, stereo input and output
3-band EQ per group timbre / track EQ 1 timbre / track
193 species effect type (can be used. Except insert, master, as a total, double-size effects can not be used as a total)
Dynamic modulation modulation, common group LFO2
Effect control bus stereo sidechain (limiter, gate, vocoder)
32 presets for each effect preset effects
Programs 128 programs (A / B bank × 8 × 8 genre category)

Dual polyphonic arpeggiator
1 Program mode group
Available group 2 Combination, Sequencer mode
5 preset arpeggio patterns
1 028 user arpeggio patterns (900 preloaded)

Drum Track
(Common with sequencer preset patterns) 637 preset patterns pattern
1,000 user patterns Patterns
Can be converted to drum track user patterns, a pattern that was created in Sequencer mode
Can be set Trigger Mode / Sync / Zone

Sequencer
+1 Master track track track 16MIDI
Song 128 songs
= 1/480 resolution
40.00 to 300.00 tempo (in 1/100BPM)
Maximum storage capacity 210,000 MIDI events
16 preset template songs / 16 user template songs
20 cue list Cue List function.
99 step up / repeat play songs in succession.
Can be converted back into a song.
637 preset / 100 user patterns pattern features / RPPR (per song)
One pattern set available for each song: RPPR (Realtime Pattern Play / Recording).
Korg format support (KROME) format, SMF format 0, 1
Media Load, Save, Utility, Data filer functions (Save / load MIDI exclusive data)

Controller
Joystick, SW [1], [2]
Real-time control [SELECT] switch: REALTIME CONTROL (TONE, USER), ARP
4 Knob: REALTIME CONTROL: real-time modulation control Arpeggio
Drum Track [DRUM TRACK] switch ON / OFF
Arpeggiator [ARP] switch ON / OFF

User Interface
View touch display graphical user interface, 7-inch color LCD display · TFT, WVGA (800 x 480 pixels), with adjustable brightness
Mode switch [COMBI], [PROG], [SEQ], [GLOBAL], [MEDIA] switches
VALUE controller [VALUE] dial, [INC], [DEC] switch, numeric key block ([0] ~ [9], [-] [.],, [ENTER], [COMPARE])
BANK switch [A], , [C], [D], [E], [F] switch ([A], , [C], in Combination mode, use [D])
Switch SEQUENCER [PAUSE], [REW], [FF], [LOCATE], [REC], [START / STOP]
TEMPO [TEMPO] knob, [TAP] switch
Others [PAGE] switch, [WRITE] switch, [EXIT] switch, [VOLUME] knob, the contrast knob

Audio Output
Control AUDIO OUTPUT, L / MONO, R 6.3mm mono phone jack (unbalanced), by the [VOLUME] knob is possible.
(550 [Ω] at the output terminal Mono L / Mono), maximum output level +16.0 [dBu], impedance more than 10 [kΩ] load impedance 1.1 [kΩ] output
Control Headphone Output 3.5mm stereo phone jack, with [VOLUME] knob is possible. 33 Output impedance [Ω], level 60 +60 [mW] (Maximum output load 33 [Ω])

Key Specifications
MIDI IN, OUT
Terminal interface USB (TYPEB) x1, (USB-MIDI interface)
SD memory card SD card slot up to 2GB, SDHC memory cards up to 32GB support (non-SDXC Memory Card)
(DC12V 3.5A), POWER switch power supply terminal
Dimensions (W x D x H) KROME-61 1,027 mm × 313mm × 93mm
KROME-73 1,191 mm × 313mm × 93mm
KROME-88 1,448 mm × 383mm × 131mm
KROME-61 7.2kg mass
KROME-73 8.2kg
KROME-88 14.7kg
13W power consumption
Accessories AC adapter, Quick Start Guide, Accessory disc (KROME Operations Guide PDF, parameter guide PDF, and video documentation)
Operating environment KORG USB-MIDI Driver
(Including version 64bit) (including version 64bit) and all subsequent editions, Windows Vista SP2 OS Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition / Professional SP3 for Windows, all editions Windows 7
(Recommended USB Host Controller's Intel) computer models equipped with USB port support
OS Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later for Macintosh
Corresponding computer models equipped with USB port
KROME Editor, operating environment KROME Plug-In Editor
(Including version 64bit) (including version 64bit) and all subsequent editions, Windows Vista SP2 OS Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition / Professional SP3 for Windows, Window 7 all editions
※ on 64bit OS of Windows Vista and Windows 7 is only available in stand-alone but can be operated.
More CPU Intel Pentium Ⅲ / 1GHz, Pentium D or Core Duo or better recommended
(Or higher recommended 1GB) Memory 512MB or more
Over 1,024 x768, 16bit color monitor
A computer with a USB port that satisfies the requirements of other Windows 7, Windows XP, of Windows Vista
OS Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later support Macintosh, and corresponds to the 64bit Kernel Mode 32bit kernel Mode
※ It does not correspond to the 64bit Plug-In for 64bit DAW, however.
(For Intel Mac), G5 or Core Duo or better recommended more than 800MHz CPU Apple G4
(Or higher recommended 1GB) Memory 512MB or more
Monitor 1,024 x768, 32,000 colors or higher
Apple Macintosh with a USB port that meets the operating requirements of Mac OS X other

oh, so I guess it is a updated Triton then. So its not HD-1. So where exactly is the link being made between it and the Kronos? A similar name and look 0_o?