Omnisphere is awesome

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SoulBe wrote:Hi,

I also have Omnisphere and Oasys and they both complete each other perfect (listen to the trailer link below ;)). Omnisphere delievers a lot of effect sounds while there are less bread an butter sounds like pianos, organs, realistic strings etc, so keep both and have fun.

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I agree , to use omnisphere, there are instrumentals sounds missing.. or sounds I found too rich to be used in a song..
moreover even if there is a search function.. in my opinion it is not optimized.. maybe I don't use it properly, but it takes for me always a long time to find the exact sound i looking for.
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dogster wrote:Purchased Omnisphere its so awesome its like I am ready to sell my Kronos 61
I guess having both is great :)
I just can't bring myself to use Omnisphere in my music even though I own it and greatly admire it - it always feels like I'm cheating, that the result is just not mine. Every preset is so over worked and processed by the Spectrasonics team that there's nothing left to do from a musical stand point with their sound that I could call 'my music'. I'm earnest about that. It sounds stunning, but I had no hand in it. As a result, I have barely used Omnisphere in any project despite owning it for quite a while.

I feel the same about Stylus RMX actually; even though yet again it is a stunning package. But again, it's so over processed that I feel I'm lifting someone else's work rather that 'rolling my own'. Elsewhere I've complained that Karma could learn a lesson or two from Stylus RMX because I find Karma too difficult to control - so I suppose I'm never bloody happy. That said, I did a course on film scoring course presented by Craig Garfinkle two years ago (he's know in Hollywood for, among other things, his truly _stunning_ Film promo music) and I have to say he used Stylus RMX to outstanding effect.

But as I've mentioned before on this forum, every Omnisphere preset sounds, to me, like a complete "Inception" sound track - stunning - but just not mine.

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You can of course program your own sounds, omnisphere is a patchers dream.
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Erenion wrote:I agree , to use omnisphere, there are instrumentals sounds missing.. or sounds I found too rich to be used in a song..
moreover even if there is a search function.. in my opinion it is not optimized.. maybe I don't use it properly, but it takes for me always a long time to find the exact sound i looking for.
Well it took me several month to go through all the sounds and samples and I put them in my own cathegories which helped a lot but still it takes some time to find the proper sound

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SoulBe wrote: Well it took me several month to go through all the sounds and samples and I put them in my own cathegories which helped a lot but still it takes some time to find the proper sound

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I should probably do that. thank you for the tips :)
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Does a pianist own the sound of his Steinway?
No pianist would stop using his piano just because he did not build it.
It´s silly to not use fantasic sounds, you paid for, because you did not make them.
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Kevin Nolan wrote: I just can't bring myself to use Omnisphere in my music even though I own it and greatly admire it - it always feels like I'm cheating, that the result is just not mine. Every preset is so over worked and processed by the Spectrasonics team that there's nothing left to do from a musical stand point with their sound that I could call 'my music'. I'm earnest about that. It sounds stunning, but I had no hand in it. As a result, I have barely used Omnisphere in any project despite owning it for quite a while.

I feel the same about Stylus RMX actually
I understand your point of view, but i don't agree with it. Although you can use Omnisphere and Stylus RMX in the way you describe it, you can take it a lot further. Omnisphere has a fantastic Synth engine for instance where you can program your sounds from scratch (without any of the samples involved), but even when you use the build in samples i see them as building blocks, since you can change so much with the envelope generators, LFO's and combine the two sample layers you can create your unique own sounds. Although these are based on existing samples they sound fresh after reprogramming the total environment, just treat them as OSC's just like you do on the oasys of kronos.

The hard part is to let go the vision of Spectrasonics with each sound, they did an outstanding job creating those presets, but is definitly possible to create new fresh sounds yourself.

The same implies for Stylus RMX, since you can create groups where you only use parts of a drumloop and you can combine these groups from several drumloops to a new drumloop you can create also new sounds quite easely. Since you can expand the drum library with your own created loops (with recycle) there is hardly any limit to create your own grooves.

Personally Omnisphere is my favorite VST Synth because of the library and sound creation possibilities, I didn't bought any hardware for years simply because i compared them to omnisphere and nothing came close. Until the Kronos came out and which got my attention due to the sound creation potential.
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QuiRobinez wrote:
Kevin Nolan wrote: I just can't bring myself to use Omnisphere in my music even though I own it and greatly admire it - it always feels like I'm cheating, that the result is just not mine. Every preset is so over worked and processed by the Spectrasonics team that there's nothing left to do from a musical stand point with their sound that I could call 'my music'. I'm earnest about that. It sounds stunning, but I had no hand in it. As a result, I have barely used Omnisphere in any project despite owning it for quite a while.

I feel the same about Stylus RMX actually
I understand your point of view, but i don't agree with it. Although you can use Omnisphere and Stylus RMX in the way you describe it, you can take it a lot further. Omnisphere has a fantastic Synth engine for instance where you can program your sounds from scratch (without any of the samples involved), but even when you use the build in samples i see them as building blocks, since you can change so much with the envelope generators, LFO's and combine the two sample layers you can create your unique own sounds. Although these are based on existing samples they sound fresh after reprogramming the total environment, just treat them as OSC's just like you do on the oasys of kronos.

The hard part is to let go the vision of Spectrasonics with each sound, they did an outstanding job creating those presets, but is definitly possible to create new fresh sounds yourself.

The same implies for Stylus RMX, since you can create groups where you only use parts of a drumloop and you can combine these groups from several drumloops to a new drumloop you can create also new sounds quite easely. Since you can expand the drum library with your own created loops (with recycle) there is hardly any limit to create your own grooves.

Personally Omnisphere is my favorite VST Synth because of the library and sound creation possibilities, I didn't bought any hardware for years simply because i compared them to omnisphere and nothing came close. Until the Kronos came out and which got my attention due to the sound creation potential.
I fully agree and I had about the same thoughts while reading Kevin's post.

Watch Eric Persing creating some incredible Omnisphere sounds within seconds from scratch, just by using the harmony function, wave shaping and granular synthesis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp0dBNec ... age#t=296s

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Here is another omnisphere/rmx video worth to check even if it is not your musical taste
http://www.spectrasonics.net/news/news- ... .php?id=67
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gjvti wrote:Here is another omnisphere/rmx video worth to check even if it is not your musical taste
http://www.spectrasonics.net/news/news- ... .php?id=67
Poor guy :(
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