zolhof wrote:
Don´t know of anyone doing this and I´ll go further, if you watch all Oasys´ promotional videos you´ll notice that Korg never spent more than 1 minute talking about the sequencer, like they already knew the sequencer was out-dated and had no new features to show. It was like "the O has a sequencer, you can do one-touch record and also record all kind of automations, including Karma" and that´s it.
I´ll quote two passages from a 2006 review of the O, it´s quite funny now:
"On final note - please, Korg, don't even think about making a LE-version"
"- please, upgrade the Sequencer, it's been the same since the Triton Studio days"
So ... one must not go on holidays ... came back home and had to read this. Well, I expected it sooner or later, hoped for later, thought there migth be at least a 2.1 OS with a sequencer update to M3's level, one more EXi, one more EXs and one EXefx. Seems I was a bit too optimistic.
But honestly: I'm neither sad nor angry. I respect someones decisions even if I do not like them. As soon as I spend money I risk money - it's as simple as that. So - as stated quite often here in this forum - one should not buy a workstation for what it MIGHT do in the future and when I heard the Oasys the first time I knew I want it ... NOW.
I think we've got enough to chew on and plenty of power to work with for years to come. The Oasys offers a sound quality that won't be outdated that quickly. If Korg ensures to provide spare-parts for the next decade I'm fine.
What is even more important: for me the Oasys was a sort of relaunch of my musical work AND I got to know new inspiring, smart and helpfull people, esp. via this forum. Wouldn't want to miss these friends!
Something struck me this morning catching up with folks thoughts here in the "big thread", and that is that while this thread is long, there aren't really that many people posting in it.
That's quite an interesting thing in itself, and harks back to Stephen comments about "some being the key word".
Daz.
p.s. thanks again for keeping all the discontinuation related chat in this thread !
every kind of comment has been made, sad ones, constructive ones, sarcastic etc.. People told about their feelings and thoughts and there might be no need for others who think/feel the same to post the same statement that has been done before. The amount of views shows that people are interested, but for many pages it circels around.
SoulBe wrote:
.. People told about their feelings and thoughts and there might be no need for others who think/feel the same to post the same statement that has been done before. The amount of views shows that people are interested, . ..
Though I have been a member of this forum for some time now, this is my first post.
In fact, this is my first post on any forum.
I would first like to thank Daz & Sharp for allowing a recluse like me to be part of this community. So, thanks guys! I love this forum and though I'm more of an observer I very much appreciate the opportunity to have my voice heard at such an important time as this.
I purchased my Oasys 88 (serial # 001717) last October from MusicSoundWorld in Tulsa Oklahoma.
Price paid was $6750.00 which included Fed-Ex 2-Day Air shipping.
This was not a floor model or demo and so I was pretty pleased with myself at the time
Like many you, liquidation of a large part of my studio was necessary to acquire Oasys.
Even my beloved Juno 106 ended up floating in the Bay (eBay, that is).
I have owned many synths of many makes and models, but I have always been a Korg man.
Though many beloved synths and processors were sacrificed to make the Big O a reality, my very first Workstation, the mighty Korg 01/Wfd, sits proudly next to my Oasys.
After almost six months, I am still delighted with this instrument and do not regret my decision to purchase.
I am also extremely saddened that this wonderful Workstation has been removed from production.
I have always bought into the whole "workstation" concept and I am one of those who actually wants to (and does) use the sequencer.
When I bought my Big O six months ago, it seemed a reasonably safe assumption the sequencer would be updated at some point in time.
I had watched the sequencer debates here on this forum for well over a year and read the Wish List on several occasions. I almost posted more than once, but I realized I didn't have anything to say that hadn't been said!
I also recall many occasions when Korg stated they were watching and listening (which I'm sure they were).
I assumed that Korg would, at the very least, increase the Midi track count and up the timing resolution to 480.
I do understand that Korg must consider the economic impact of any decision to continue, discontinue, or update, any product.
SO, WITH REGARD TO PRE-PAYMENT FOR A SEQUENCER UPDATE:
I absolutely, most certainly, without even the smallest doubt, am willing to pre-pay $250.00 to $500.00 for a Sequencer update.
For $250.00 I would not ask for any specific features and will gladly accept whatever Korg creates.
I would be willing to pre-pay $500.00 if Korg would simply state they will increase the Midi track count and timing resolution.
I will not expect to be able to specify the number of tracks that would be added or what the PPQN should be.
Again, I'll take whatever Korg will give.
I am well aware that this may be a pipe dream, but I wanted to put it out there because it means so very, very, much to me, and I suspect to others as well.
And let's not forget, if we don't ask, we won't know, right?
I'd like to conclude my first post by expressing my sincere thanks to Dan, Jerry, and Korg, Inc., not just for building Oasys, but for building all their wonderful synths, effects processors, digital recorders, and even the infrequent drum machine (I had an S3 in another life). Over the years I have owned many of these and am proud now to own Oasys.
I am so genuinely pleased and sometimes awed by my Oasys, and after only six short months I know one thing for sure: We will be together for a long, long, time, 16 tracks and all!
Kronos 2-88, 01/Wfd, Virus TI Desktop, Casio VZ-10M,
Event 20/20bas, Reverb 4000, Many Stompboxes -
Though I have been a member of this forum for some time now, this is my first post.
In fact, this is my first post on any forum.
I would first like to thank Daz & Sharp for allowing a recluse like me to be part of this community. So, thanks guys! I love this forum and though I'm more of an observer I very much appreciate the opportunity to have my voice heard at such an important time as this.
I purchased my Oasys 88 (serial # 001717) last October from MusicSoundWorld in Tulsa Oklahoma.
Price paid was $6750.00 which included Fed-Ex 2-Day Air shipping.
This was not a floor model or demo and so I was pretty pleased with myself at the time
Like many you, liquidation of a large part of my studio was necessary to acquire Oasys.
Even my beloved Juno 106 ended up floating in the Bay (eBay, that is).
I have owned many synths of many makes and models, but I have always been a Korg man.
Though many beloved synths and processors were sacrificed to make the Big O a reality, my very first Workstation, the mighty Korg 01/Wfd, sits proudly next to my Oasys.
After almost six months, I am still delighted with this instrument and do not regret my decision to purchase.
I am also extremely saddened that this wonderful Workstation has been removed from production.
I have always bought into the whole "workstation" concept and I am one of those who actually wants to (and does) use the sequencer.
When I bought my Big O six months ago, it seemed a reasonably safe assumption the sequencer would be updated at some point in time.
I had watched the sequencer debates here on this forum for well over a year and read the Wish List on several occasions. I almost posted more than once, but I realized I didn't have anything to say that hadn't been said!
I also recall many occasions when Korg stated they were watching and listening (which I'm sure they were).
I assumed that Korg would, at the very least, increase the Midi track count and up the timing resolution to 480.
I do understand that Korg must consider the economic impact of any decision to continue, discontinue, or update, any product.
SO, WITH REGARD TO PRE-PAYMENT FOR A SEQUENCER UPDATE:
I absolutely, most certainly, without even the smallest doubt, am willing to pre-pay $250.00 to $500.00 for a Sequencer update.
For $250.00 I would not ask for any specific features and will gladly accept whatever Korg creates.
I would be willing to pre-pay $500.00 if Korg would simply state they will increase the Midi track count and timing resolution.
I will not expect to be able to specify the number of tracks that would be added or what the PPQN should be.
Again, I'll take whatever Korg will give.
I am well aware that this may be a pipe dream, but I wanted to put it out there because it means so very, very, much to me, and I suspect to others as well.
And let's not forget, if we don't ask, we won't know, right?
I'd like to conclude my first post by expressing my sincere thanks to Dan, Jerry, and Korg, Inc., not just for building Oasys, but for building all their wonderful synths, effects processors, digital recorders, and even the infrequent drum machine (I had an S3 in another life). Over the years I have owned many of these and am proud now to own Oasys.
I am so genuinely pleased and sometimes awed by my Oasys, and after only six short months I know one thing for sure: We will be together for a long, long, time, 16 tracks and all!
Good post which mirrors most of my feelings.
As I said earlier, I AM WILLING TO PRE-PAY $500 FOR A DECENT SEQUENCER UPDATE AND WILL PAY MORE FOR USB DAW INTERGRATION.
I'd always maintained that the OASYS was essentially nothing more than the sum of its parts - a standard (and now outdated) PC with a nice interface, a decent keyboard, a cool arpeggiator, a lame sequencer and an ok display, all built into one fairly attractive box. Obviously many owners thought/think differently, and of course that's cool. Vive la difference...
I myself never bought into OASYS' "open architecture" hype, preferring to go the Mac / I/O device / keyboard controller / Logic sequencer route. Way more flexibility and options for way less money. That was my opinion a couple of years back and I took a lot of flack for it, eventually being banned from this site for little more than honestly expressing my views. Anyway, time moves on...
All along, I have been free to sub in new bits as they come to market. The Yamaha N12 I now use for I/O was great value, sounds fantastic and is a doddle to set up and use. My sequencer upgrade to Logic 8 was inexpensive, seamless and provides a whole new level of user friendliness that my students benefit from every day. Sure, it's not in one elegant box, but who really cares? It's not going anywhere anyway.
I was happy then - and ever more so now - that I decided to avoid the OASYS. For me, it just never added up, even with all the promises of the "open architecture" from Korg, which we all now know never achieved the potential Korg continually alluded to.
There are still a couple OASYS floating around town, and I still play with them once in a while, but to this day I still don't hear how it could possibly improve on the basic setup I have had in my studio for years. I certainly don't need everything in one box... but I do like to upgrade on my own terms and in my own time, not just when a single manufacturer says "ok, here's an upgrade for you - just wait til the next one!"
I'd always maintained that the OASYS was essentially nothing more than the sum of its parts - a standard (and now outdated) PC with a nice interface, a decent keyboard, a cool arpeggiator, a lame sequencer and an ok display, all built into one fairly attractive box. Obviously many owners thought/think differently, and of course that's cool. Vive la difference...
I myself never bought into OASYS' "open architecture" hype, preferring to go the Mac / I/O device / keyboard controller / Logic sequencer route. Way more flexibility and options for way less money. That was my opinion a couple of years back and I took a lot of flack for it, eventually being banned from this site for little more than honestly expressing my views. Anyway, time moves on...
All along, I have been free to sub in new bits as they come to market. The Yamaha N12 I now use for I/O was great value, sounds fantastic and is a doddle to set up and use. My sequencer upgrade to Logic 8 was inexpensive, seamless and provides a whole new level of user friendliness that my students benefit from every day. Sure, it's not in one elegant box, but who really cares? It's not going anywhere anyway.
I was happy then - and ever more so now - that I decided to avoid the OASYS. For me, it just never added up, even with all the promises of the "open architecture" from Korg, which we all now know never achieved the potential Korg continually alluded to.
There are still a couple OASYS floating around town, and I still play with them once in a while, but to this day I still don't hear how it could possibly improve on the basic setup I have had in my studio for years. I certainly don't need everything in one box... but I do like to upgrade on my own terms and in my own time, not just when a single manufacturer says "ok, here's an upgrade for you - just wait til the next one!"
Oh, the one that's not coming?
Peace
I'm sure you did what was best for you but the one thing you left out in your post was the main point of all, the music the sound.
Do you think your set-up can rival the sound of the Oasys? Hmmm
I'll tell you what, how about you post a song with your logic or whatever you use and I'll post one with The Oasys. Then you will know for sure you made the right choice because the Oasys is outdated right post a song. O and have a nice day
I use Digital Performer, and have Logic as well - both great DAWs. Personally, I use the OASYS in this setup for almost all synthesis duties, due to its superior sound, and the flexibility and power of the synth engines. I'm biased, of course.
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Well, I expected it sooner or later, hoped for later, thought there migth be at least a 2.1 OS with a sequencer update to M3's level, one more EXi, one more EXs and one EXefx. Seems I was a bit too optimistic. 
post a song. O and have a nice day 
