Do you really think it's that good? I've got a Ti Polar that I bought when it first came out and to be honest, i'm a bit fed up with trying to get it to work as a plug-in, sync the arp etc. I have played the KK in the music shop and it has grown on me, but is it really in the same league as the Ti? Like to hear your thoughts as I might get one.jimknopf wrote:I can only confirm the fun factor.![]()
Second tier here as well: the KK has comppletely replaced my Access TI there (which still is a great synth for other tasks)! Why? Simply, because the KK sounds much(!) better for the things I use most: warm, vivid, analog like leads, basses, pads, effects etc. Now I don't have to try to get that out of the Access TI besides it's main purpose any longer, and can just use it for the typical elctronica midrange sounds it does best, perhaps replacing it by a TI Snow sooner or later.
Wiith the Kronos 73 and the KK on top it is extremely easy to cover anything needed for live purposes (including some Moog-, Oberheim, Prophet5, and Acid sounds and synth effects).
KingKorg is legit!!!!
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It will be rather difficult to get the KingKorg to work as a plug-in, since it doesn't have one. It doesn't even have a software editor, at least not yet and not promised. Korg's VA synths sound good, but that's not news. Feature-wise, the KingKorg is a step down from the TI2 Polar in many respects, particularly the max polyphony, number of timbres and sampling/wave form selection, however the doormagikroom wrote: Do you really think it's that good? I've got a Ti Polar that I bought when it first came out and to be honest, i'm a bit fed up with trying to get it to work as a plug-in, sync the arp etc. I have played the KK in the music shop and it has grown on me, but is it really in the same league as the Ti? Like to hear your thoughts as I might get one.
magicroom, I bought a TI keyboard a while ago since it was the by far best option for me back then. And the plugin functionality is great for recording, though it still can cause some problems with certain driver configurations.
I love all the functionality of the TI and all the great updates Access has provided for it, since years. I also love to have access to those thousands of mostly very well done patches available directly at the Access site. No other company has a remotely comparable offer.
The one thing I do NOT love any more from the TI though, is the basic sound character, as soon as you leave the narrow midrange dance/trance/dubstep zone. It is neither good for rich low basses (pumping up the EQ is not the remedy I'm after) nor does it deliver anything sounding remotely like the lead sounds you get from analog gear.
I fact to me the Virus C I played before had a more vivid sound character (with at least SOME more high end) than the present strictly midrange generation. If you use it there and for its main purpose, it still fits very well into mixes. But Access has not improved the soundquality towards analog-like any bit over the years, it rather got worse since the C, and that is not my cup of tea any more, with real alternatives coming up meanwhile.
In fact I will sell my TI keyboard now, due to the Kingkorg (I never keep gear which I don't use a lot, just to have it for the casusal sound possibility). It is now my second tier synth, because it delivers more of the sound character I want from a VA than any other synth in the price range up to 3000$.
The KK sounds much better to me for analog-like sounds than an Access Virus or a NordLead or even a Tetra/Prophet 8 (which in fact has disappointed me for not sounding at all as fresh and smooth as a Prophet 5) will ever do. The KK has a lot of limits I can easily deal with, because it still delivers plenty of great sound(s) for my main purposes, and is so refreshingly easy to handle.
I love all the functionality of the TI and all the great updates Access has provided for it, since years. I also love to have access to those thousands of mostly very well done patches available directly at the Access site. No other company has a remotely comparable offer.
The one thing I do NOT love any more from the TI though, is the basic sound character, as soon as you leave the narrow midrange dance/trance/dubstep zone. It is neither good for rich low basses (pumping up the EQ is not the remedy I'm after) nor does it deliver anything sounding remotely like the lead sounds you get from analog gear.
I fact to me the Virus C I played before had a more vivid sound character (with at least SOME more high end) than the present strictly midrange generation. If you use it there and for its main purpose, it still fits very well into mixes. But Access has not improved the soundquality towards analog-like any bit over the years, it rather got worse since the C, and that is not my cup of tea any more, with real alternatives coming up meanwhile.
In fact I will sell my TI keyboard now, due to the Kingkorg (I never keep gear which I don't use a lot, just to have it for the casusal sound possibility). It is now my second tier synth, because it delivers more of the sound character I want from a VA than any other synth in the price range up to 3000$.
The KK sounds much better to me for analog-like sounds than an Access Virus or a NordLead or even a Tetra/Prophet 8 (which in fact has disappointed me for not sounding at all as fresh and smooth as a Prophet 5) will ever do. The KK has a lot of limits I can easily deal with, because it still delivers plenty of great sound(s) for my main purposes, and is so refreshingly easy to handle.
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Librarian Software? I'm sure you mean Editor... Right?!
I've been following the KingKorg for a couple of months now, and it seems to be pretty cool. Played it at one of my local shops, went completely loco only to find out that the headphones I plugged in didn't really provide the private playing I expected... Because the speakers plugged into the KingKorg kinda forced everyone to listen to me trying it out.
Anyways, I think the KingKorg sounds fine. Great sounds, mono/poly switch, allows pulling piano and organ sounds etc. through synth filters and effects, some nice parameter controllers (but no aftertouch darn it!). I was pretty psyched 'bout it.
But for about a year I've got the SV-1. And the SV-1 wouldn't be worth what I paid for it, if it didn't have the Editor software. I'm sure it's nowhere near the deep control and sound forgery that various workstations provide, but the SV-1 is the first keyboard I've had that allows sound-editing, so it works for me. About 2 months ago I bought a Prophecy, and I loved the sounds... But I downloaded the Progenie Editor pretty quickly. Now I might be a bit lazy, but I'm not really looking forward to being limited by the "2 lines 40 characters" screen of Prophecy, especially not with the whole sh*tload of control it offers.
When I heard about the Librarian software, I assumed it was some sort of Editor software, like Progenie or the SV-1 Editor. I mean, it would be crazy not to include this for the KingKorg, right? So many variables, so many parameters, so many functions... Some functions are printed on the keyboard, like certain effects, and there are sub displays for the oscillator and filter section. But still, 2 lines 16 characters inevitably means scrolling through menus.
I'm guessing developing Editor software might be a bit too expensive. I'm no professional sound sculpturer, and there are certainly some arguments that I might've overlooked; like I said, I only had hands-on experience with it once, had quite some fun and didn't even have to scroll through the menus. But if they would've included Editor software, that would've been a lot more practical.
Anyways, I think the KingKorg sounds fine. Great sounds, mono/poly switch, allows pulling piano and organ sounds etc. through synth filters and effects, some nice parameter controllers (but no aftertouch darn it!). I was pretty psyched 'bout it.
But for about a year I've got the SV-1. And the SV-1 wouldn't be worth what I paid for it, if it didn't have the Editor software. I'm sure it's nowhere near the deep control and sound forgery that various workstations provide, but the SV-1 is the first keyboard I've had that allows sound-editing, so it works for me. About 2 months ago I bought a Prophecy, and I loved the sounds... But I downloaded the Progenie Editor pretty quickly. Now I might be a bit lazy, but I'm not really looking forward to being limited by the "2 lines 40 characters" screen of Prophecy, especially not with the whole sh*tload of control it offers.
When I heard about the Librarian software, I assumed it was some sort of Editor software, like Progenie or the SV-1 Editor. I mean, it would be crazy not to include this for the KingKorg, right? So many variables, so many parameters, so many functions... Some functions are printed on the keyboard, like certain effects, and there are sub displays for the oscillator and filter section. But still, 2 lines 16 characters inevitably means scrolling through menus.
I'm guessing developing Editor software might be a bit too expensive. I'm no professional sound sculpturer, and there are certainly some arguments that I might've overlooked; like I said, I only had hands-on experience with it once, had quite some fun and didn't even have to scroll through the menus. But if they would've included Editor software, that would've been a lot more practical.
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had the kingkorg for a few months now.
This has turned out to be one excellent synth. Not only does it sound great, it is a joy to play.
I love the portamento knob. I solo around, then hit a high note, hold down sustain pedal, turn portamento all the way up, hit a low note, and while the timbre is gliding down, I go to another keyboard and solo on it.
While the Factory Presets are a little weak, it does not take long to tweek them to your liking.
This keyboard is very smooth sounding and extremely easy to deal with.
I have a miniBrute also and it does have something the KingKorg does not.....i.e. the miniBrute takes 10 minutes to warm up and stay in tune. Maybe Korg can add that to some future upgrade. (HaHa)
This has turned out to be one excellent synth. Not only does it sound great, it is a joy to play.
I love the portamento knob. I solo around, then hit a high note, hold down sustain pedal, turn portamento all the way up, hit a low note, and while the timbre is gliding down, I go to another keyboard and solo on it.
While the Factory Presets are a little weak, it does not take long to tweek them to your liking.
This keyboard is very smooth sounding and extremely easy to deal with.
I have a miniBrute also and it does have something the KingKorg does not.....i.e. the miniBrute takes 10 minutes to warm up and stay in tune. Maybe Korg can add that to some future upgrade. (HaHa)
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