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Posted: **Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:59 pm**

A fully functional perfectly working Kronos-88

Posted: **Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:14 pm**

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Posted: **Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:35 pm**

There is 19 pages to sort through so this might already be mentioned.

Why not develop a Radias expansion board like the Korg EXB Radias for the M3, but for the Kronos. I think as the 10th Engine in the Kronos, it would really complete the unit.

What do you guys think?

Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:50 am**

Posted: **Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:02 pm**

Sina172 wrote:
KronosSoundDesigns wrote:There is 19 pages to sort through so this might already be mentioned.

Why not develop a Radias expansion board like the Korg EXB Radias for the M3, but for the Kronos. I think as the 10th Engine in the Kronos, it would really complete the unit.

What do you guys think?
Considering how the RADIAS is a subset of what the AL-1 Engine in KRONOS is (minus the 4-Part Program, each with its own step sequencer, minus the formant shift with the incredible 16-band vocoder it has, minus the dual comb filter, which not only allows you to use 2 filters in various configurations for each timbre, but also to "morph" into different filter types, and Formant Motion Record which lets you record vocal phrases and words and trigger them with the Vocoder), I don't really see the point of this...

But if they add those missing elements to AL-1 in KRONOS, that would be intense!

I'd really like to see an actual Wavestation, M1/T-Series with ALL the expansion card libraries and Internal ROM, the Mono/Poly, the entire Triton and Trinity Program/Combi Collection in the KRONOS.

Bring back the Dual Arps in the KRONOS, but instead of 2 1/2 Bars on the grid, make it 8-bars that can be programmed. The ability to edit both the X axis and the Y axis (right now you can only edit on the Y axis). This will individualize each note, instead of a column of notes that you have certain settings on.

I want ALL the M3 sequencer advantages ported over to the KRONOS, with a dedicated drum program grid (similar to the dual arps I just mentioned), but for the Drum Track feature.

And the ability to access Program Mode, WHILE in Combi or Sequence Mode so we can alter the Programs we want without having to leave everything and go to another mode. This is actually where Kurzweil SHINES and I would LOVE to see this in KRONOS.

And PLEASE, I am BEGGING Korg for that On-Board GE Editor! I would LOVE that in my KRONOS 88's and 61!

Sina

All very nice additions, however I think these items would take quite some time to develop making it more likely to be in Kronos '2'.
Probably the AL1 will be upgraded to AL2 (why otherwise use the digit).
It would be awesome to have in 10 years AL5, SGX3, EP2 etc. etc.

Posted: **Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:27 pm**

As I struggle to find a good workflow for composing/sequencing in the Kronos, here is one of my major pain points: I would like to be able to audition programs in my sequence, while the sequence plays/loops, and with the program's effects intact.

Also, if I assign a program to a sequencer track, I should have the option of copying in the effects of the program right on the spot. I should not be required to do a separate operation through the pull-down menu.

I also agree with all other posts about the Seq section, including: piano role view, drag-n-drop arranging, cue list, etc.

I am hoping this will all get much easier in my DAW once the Kronos plug-in software is released, but it should still be more manageable in the stand-alone keyboard.

Posted: **Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:44 am**

In the "track edit" view, I would like to be able to zoom in on those teeny tiny tracks.

Also, I would rather see "midi clips" than the current view which just shows "occupied measures"

Then... I would want to be able to do drag-n-drop editing with those midi clips.

Heck... how about Korg buys outs one of the DAW companies and incorporates the software right into the Kronos platform. That would resolve a lot of issues.

Posted: **Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:49 am**

Hi, I urgently desire two things in a future OS update

1) The ability to join together two (or perhaps three ?) different programs into a newly created combi, so that the insert effects are copied; It is clear to me that this involves some doublings and therefore redundancy for the effects used in this combo. Nevertheless this is an essential feature missing in the kronos! It should be possible to combine a small number of programs (at least two) in exactly the way they sound as individual programs without any fumbling around with an endless and tedious copying of effect parameters ... perhaps
it is enough if a computer based editor is able to do this.

2) Even more important for me: Some global templates to enable quick switching of the Adjust layout in order to enhance the ease of programming of the EG-envelopes and Pitch-envelopes or other essential parameters. There are 8 sliders and 8 knobs, but they can be hardly used for adjustments in program mode by the missing flexibility to quickly change the layout of the adjust parameters.

In fact the best solution would even be to provide an option to be set on a EG-parameter page, which, if enabled, would allow to control say all amplitude values of the EG by the sliders and all EG-times say by the knobs in a fly ...

Recall .. the envelopes of Kronos are amazing and sound really beautiful, but without knobs and sliders it is almost impossible to work intuitively with them. These knobs and sliders make a huge difference, since all these parameters strongly interact ..

Posted: **Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:22 pm**

How about a bank page in Global mode, rather like the Set List page, where you could specify 128 banks and assign the bank buttons to the appropriate banks. To be really ambitious there could be 128 bank pages so now you could have 16384 banks. Better than having to push two buttons (or more) to get to a bank. Probably need a bigger SSD though.

Bryan

Posted: **Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:16 pm**

Cpilot wrote:How about a bank page in Global mode, rather like the Set List page, where you could specify 128 banks and assign the bank buttons to the appropriate banks. To be really ambitious there could be 128 bank pages so now you could have 16384 banks. Better than having to push two buttons (or more) to get to a bank. Probably need a bigger SSD though.

Bryan

Currently a full Kronos PCG file is 42MB. To make it 16384 banks instead of the current (about 24) will result in a file of 29GB (not completely true, but a rough estimation). To put this on a thumb drive will cost you a thumb drives of about $1000 and hour(s) of time to save.
Also on the SSD it will be noticable slower.

However it would be nice to have the possibility to have even more, allthough I think we might thank Korg for making already so many banks possible.

About global mode: it would be nice to have multiple Globals and be able to assign a global page for each program/combi/set list slot.

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:36 am**

michelkeijzers wrote:Currently a full Kronos PCG file is 42MB. To make it 16384 banks instead of the current (about 24) will result in a file of 29GB (not completely true, but a rough estimation). To put this on a thumb drive will cost you a thumb drives of about $1000 and hour(s) of time to save.

$1,000 for a USB thumb drive to hold 29GB? Would you like to buy a boxful of them from me at $900 each so you can sell them on and make a profit?

I can't speak for other countries but we often end up paying more for tech kit here in the UK than elsewhere, and I can get a 32GB thumb drive for less than £30 from Amazon UK (probably cheaper if I shopped around). I already have two of them in my laptop bag for transferring files.

I can see your point about the time it would take to save though, which obviously would be significantly longer for 29GB than for 42MB and would be long enough to be a pain even with a fast thumb drive.

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:47 pm**

I didn't really advocate 16384 banks - just a bit of tongue in cheek. But 128 banks is realistic.

Bryan

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:39 pm**

petem wrote:
michelkeijzers wrote:Currently a full Kronos PCG file is 42MB. To make it 16384 banks instead of the current (about 24) will result in a file of 29GB (not completely true, but a rough estimation). To put this on a thumb drive will cost you a thumb drives of about $1000 and hour(s) of time to save.
$1,000 for a USB thumb drive to hold 29GB? Would you like to buy a boxful of them from me at $900 each so you can sell them on and make a profit?

I can't speak for other countries but we often end up paying more for tech kit here in the UK than elsewhere, and I can get a 32GB thumb drive for less than £30 from Amazon UK (probably cheaper if I shopped around). I already have two of them in my laptop bag for transferring files.

I can see your point about the time it would take to save though, which obviously would be significantly longer for 29GB than for 42MB and would be long enough to be a pain even with a fast thumb drive.

Sorry you are fully right .... they are not expensive here too (far from).
Everything technical is more expensive here than in US mostly, but not that much, excuse me for the mistake.

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:42 pm**

Cpilot wrote:I didn't really advocate 16384 banks - just a bit of tongue in cheek. But 128 banks is realistic.

Bryan

By pressing two of any bank buttons there would be 128 banks possible (I think), bank IAIB ... UFUG.

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:58 pm**

RobLinwood wrote:I just spent a few hours reading this entire thread and my head is swimming. I have had my Kronos 61 for exactly one week today. Having come from an M3, my ramp-up into the basics was quick. I have barely begun to dig into the Ops Guide, so extend some mercy to me if these suggestions are already present in the Kronos...

- Software-based Shutdown: to alleviate the dangers of losing unwritten or unsaved precious work. Perhaps a software-based shutdown with appropriate warning(s) about unsaved songs (for example) and an opportunity to choose to save or at least cancel.

- Automatic song load - a Global option to automatically load all songs from a particular/configurable folder as part of boot up. I find the file management requirements (saving, loading, filetypes, etc.) of the Kronos to be highly flexible, but also burdensome.

- Muti-timbral Patterns (or perhaps "Pattern Groups") - I want a way to effectively jump to different parts of a song while playing live. I play in live worship settings where songs are often not played "as rehearsed" -- such as repeating a chorus part a couple extra times, or jumping back to verse n, etc. I think this end could be achieved with Karma and custom GE's, but I am also interested in the RPPR feature -- and hoping to assign pattern play triggers to the extra pads on my nanopad2 (after 1.5 comes out). Basically I want to trigger something much more lengthy than a typical arpeggiated (or even Karmafied) phrase.

That's my "first week" wish list. I hope to get some good suggestions from all you geniuses out there.

Today I am spending time experimenting with the RPPR feature and pads as I described above. This would work beautifully for my requirement of "realtime song arrangements" except, as it stands, I must carefully time my tap of the pad/key within one measure of when I want the next pattern to start. That's okay sometimes, but what if I want to "cue up" a pattern to play only after the current pattern completes (not at the end of the current measure)?

To do this, we need another option or two in the Sync options in RPPR. Since I may have multiple patterns of various lengths playing at any given time, I propose two new Sync options:

1) "Pattern First" - this option starts the next pattern(s) playing only after any currently playing pattern ends. That is, the first pattern to reach its end will trigger the new pattern(s) to start.

2) "Pattern Last" - this option starts the next pattern(s) playing only after all currently playing patterns have ended. That is, the last pattern to reach its end will trigger the new pattern(s) to start.

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