Is the electribe sampler a bad joke?

[jbvdb493]

Man the Xp-50 was cool back then! I sequenced my sampler and eventually my microwave xt with it, had it maxed out for synth and techno expansion boards! But that redish screen was horrible!
But let's be honest this was before 2+ GHz laptops capable of crushing reason 8 AND live 9 so the need for the bee all end all hardware sequencer is kinda gone when maschine studio and mpc touch ( maybe?) reign supreme!
I am right jelly about that asr-x pro tho man I was broke ass when I was doing well at making music and shitty at it now that I have money! Lol

[jbvdb493]

To the OP and all the whiners tho at the end of the day take poopy or get off the potty ( I have 4 year olds at home so deal with poo allegories!)
Seriously stop crying about the electribe and use it or get maschine or an mpc second hand! The end.!?

[sauce]

Man the Xp-50 was cool back then! I sequenced my sampler and eventually my microwave xt with it, had it maxed out for synth and techno expansion boards! But that redish screen was horrible!
But let's be honest this was before 2+ GHz laptops capable of crushing reason 8 AND live 9 so the need for the bee all end all hardware sequencer is kinda gone when maschine studio and mpc touch ( maybe?) reign supreme!
I am right jelly about that asr-x pro tho man I was broke ass when I was doing well at making music and shitty at it now that I have money! Lol

The Microwave XT is one of my favorite synths ever. Alongside the V-Synth and an SH-101 I used to crush live shows at my house, lol.. Never out of the house with that expensive gear. That was the beauty of the ESX for me; I didn't have to take much else out to rock a dancefloor for a couple hours.

The ASR-X's problem was the same as the Beat Thang, really.. Too much hip-hype in the adverts and they never sussed a MIDI hiccup when changing patterns.

[axs]

To the OP and all the whiners tho at the end of the day take poopy or get off the potty ( I have 4 year olds at home so deal with poo allegories!)
Seriously stop crying about the electribe and use it or get maschine or an mpc second hand! The end.!?

Maybe I'm a whiner, or not, I just feel I've bought a product that is surprisingly lacking, and I feel ripped off. Sorry if it offends you that I mention it. But we're talking a week +/- of take home wages for a piece of kit that imho doesn't deliver, thats all. If people have the patience to squeeze great stuff out of this machine, more power to 'em. After talking to my band mates about it, we've agreed to all pitch in to buy an octatrack (which I've owned before, and is a complex bitch to deal with, but worth it, as I've now discovered). I don't think it's whining, more just getting from point a to point b in the most sensible and effective way? I'm grateful my comrades in arms understand the dilemma, and wish everyone that has the patience to make great music with this thing all the best.

[jbvdb493]

Sauce: man I def. miss the microwave xt, selling it was a mistake that the blofeld doesn't seem to make up for
I just ordered an MPC 1k on eBay, the price was right and no import fees so I got drunk and did!
Don't mean to come off as a jerk but the tone on here is sooo f*ck*ng negative it's annoying! Might as well hang out at gearslutz or something!
Again tho I don't have a sampler and don't think I would get one due to the seemingly annoying sample management!
There I am meeting people half way I think
But still tho sequencing the iPad from the electribe is fun as hell and I hope will only be better with an mpc to clock it all and smash out beats!
And cuz I am on vacation and drunk well FUCJ the haters

[jbvdb493]

Man the Xp-50 was cool back then! I sequenced my sampler and eventually my microwave xt with it, had it maxed out for synth and techno expansion boards! But that redish screen was horrible!
But let's be honest this was before 2+ GHz laptops capable of crushing reason 8 AND live 9 so the need for the bee all end all hardware sequencer is kinda gone when maschine studio and mpc touch ( maybe?) reign supreme!
I am right jelly about that asr-x pro tho man I was broke ass when I was doing well at making music and shitty at it now that I have money! Lol

The Microwave XT is one of my favorite synths ever. Alongside the V-Synth and an SH-101 I used to crush live shows at my house, lol.. Never out of the house with that expensive gear. That was the beauty of the ESX for me; I didn't have to take much else out to rock a dancefloor for a couple hours.

The ASR-X's problem was the same as the Beat Thang, really.. Too much hip-hype in the adverts and they never sussed a MIDI hiccup when changing patterns.

Man bass station 2 is a more than capable sh-101 replacement if you are ever looking btw!
f*ck I love gear and that's why I defend the electribe you know it makes making music like playing around instead of browsing patches in Ableton live!

[krakapow]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad4DoImZbjU

Took a short timeout from making music and enjoying the electribe to post
a video of someone doing the same

Sad to see you guys not enjoying it, hope you work it out

[SMK]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad4DoImZbjU


Sad to see you guys not enjoying it, hope you work it out

So true, so very true. Great video choice BTW, Krakapow!

[thesigma]

When I first upgraded from the ES-1 to the ESX, I was so let down. There was one specific feature in the ES-1 that, well, was a pain in the ass to do on the ESX. Yeah, there were some improvements but everything that was simple to do on the ES-1 was a complicated mess on the ESX..

I owned an ES-1 for 10 years before finally getting an ESX-1SD, Only thing I missed on the ES-1 was the global delay. It was always ready right there and it sounded great and the ESX you had to be sure of which of 3 FX you were adjusting and none of the three delays sounded quite the same to me, though it was nice to be able to not have everything go through the delay.

I am actually quite curious, what was it that you found such a chore? for me there was pretty much no learning curve it seemed to operate in basically the same way as the ES-1, except it added stretch parts and keyboard parts. In my opinion, it was a major upgrade, without changing the fundamentals of what an electribe was. I cant think of any features they removed or downgraded. One can't say the same for the E2(S).

It's like in all the attempts to improve on the ES-1, it seemed that making the Electribe into more of a programming experience than that of a performance instrument was the best solution at the time. But that's not what worked for me. I had the ESX for less than a week.

But that's the whole point. The ESX is a different workflow. The machine was not good or bad, it just was not for me.

I respectfully disagree. There certainly where more things you could program but the machine functioned in nearly an identical way to the ES-1, I really don't understand what you mean by that, but I will respect that it just wasn't for you.

In Fact there were some really cool things you could program, that made live performance easier. I'll refer you to most of Sauce's techniques for examples.

The ES2 is not a bad instrument in anyway. It's just probably not the instrument for what you do. If that's the case, thank God you still have your ESX...right?

Right. It's just not for me, and many others. And thank God I still have my ESX!

[SMK]

When I first upgraded from the ES-1 to the ESX, I was so let down. There was one specific feature in the ES-1 that, well, was a pain in the ass to do on the ESX. Yeah, there were some improvements but everything that was simple to do on the ES-1 was a complicated mess on the ESX..

I owned an ES-1 for 10 years before finally getting an ESX-1SD, Only thing I missed on the ES-1 was the global delay. It was always ready right there and it sounded great and the ESX you had to be sure of which of 3 FX you were adjusting and none of the three delays sounded quite the same to me, though it was nice to be able to not have everything go through the delay.

I am actually quite curious, what was it that you found such a chore? for me there was pretty much no learning curve it seemed to operate in basically the same way as the ES-1, except it added stretch parts and keyboard parts. In my opinion, it was a major upgrade, without changing the fundamentals of what an electribe was. I cant think of any features they removed or downgraded. One can't say the same for the E2(S).

It's like in all the attempts to improve on the ES-1, it seemed that making the Electribe into more of a programming experience than that of a performance instrument was the best solution at the time. But that's not what worked for me. I had the ESX for less than a week.

But that's the whole point. The ESX is a different workflow. The machine was not good or bad, it just was not for me.

I respectfully disagree. There certainly where more things you could program but the machine functioned in nearly an identical way to the ES-1, I really don't understand what you mean by that, but I will respect that it just wasn't for you.

In Fact there were some really cool things you could program, that made live performance easier. I'll refer you to most of Sauce's techniques for examples.

The ES2 is not a bad instrument in anyway. It's just probably not the instrument for what you do. If that's the case, thank God you still have your ESX...right?

Right. It's just not for me, and many others. And thank God I still have my ESX!

I'm not going to get into the details of the problems I had with the ESX since the ES2 is prettymuch the update I had hoped for.

The point of my post was to state that there are things some may have found to be a pain on the ESX that the ES2 solves.

Yeah there are some improvements that need to be addressed fixes to make things work correctly. But the ES2 is still a great sampler.

[thesigma]

Again with the utmost respect, it doesn't do much good to say there are things that were a pain on the ESX, that are not on the E2S, without naming what those things are. It might actually help sway some opinions...

While it does have some improvements, it's certainly not the update I had hoped for.

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To the OP and all the whiners tho at the end of the day take poopy or get off the potty ( I have 4 year olds at home so deal with poo allegories!)
Seriously stop crying about the electribe and use it or get maschine or an mpc second hand! The end.!?

Maybe I'm a whiner, or not, I just feel I've bought a product that is surprisingly lacking, and I feel ripped off. Sorry if it offends you that I mention it. But we're talking a week +/- of take home wages for a piece of kit that imho doesn't deliver, thats all.

surely this is down to ur own failure to do sufficient research before purchasing?

[SMK]

To the OP and all the whiners tho at the end of the day take poopy or get off the potty ( I have 4 year olds at home so deal with poo allegories!)
Seriously stop crying about the electribe and use it or get maschine or an mpc second hand! The end.!?

Maybe I'm a whiner, or not, I just feel I've bought a product that is surprisingly lacking, and I feel ripped off. Sorry if it offends you that I mention it. But we're talking a week +/- of take home wages for a piece of kit that imho doesn't deliver, thats all.

surely this is down to ur own failure to do sufficient research before purchasing?

I was about to say the same thing, but was looking for a diplomatic way of saying so...is there a way?

There is so much on the ES2 from videos to long posts about the ES2, how its not the ESX 2.0 (read ES2 sucks) and more. Tarekith, FranzK and Sauce have the most informative and deeply covered review videos on the E2 and ES2 (I think Tarekith only reviewed the E2). Sauces videos are very well done comparisons of the ES2 vs the ESX. His videos are especially perfect for those looking for an ESX 2.0 and learning that the ES2 is not that.

[axs]

Sure, it could be due to a certain lack of research, but I would have never in a million years expected the kinds of short comings I feel this product is riddled with, so how would I know to investigate it?

And surely you don't mean that there is something wrong with warning potential buyers against a product that one finds lacking? No one has been particularly malicious on this thread, but have simply pointed out various degrees of disappointment in lacking features.

So, hopefully someone considering this product discovers this thread and can make an informed decision about whether or not to buy it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems to kind of be the point of forums - to spread information.

[Spheric El]

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That's what this forum's about, discussing gear.