Triton Extreme + Moss BUG. ANY NEWS FROM KORG?

KrzysiekK · Post by **KrzysiekK** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:04 pm

for clarification, we fell into ambiguity, dear Nor, I did not meant to offend you (note that I wrote "nor" not "Nor"). Anyway, sorry for this pointless talking (which only benefit is to keep this thread hot

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BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:30 pm

Nor, isnt Din Religion in general and NooroodDeen is just Light of Religion?
That was my grandfathers name (Allah Erhamu).

Nor · Post by **Nor** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:47 pm

Nedim,

Yes yo are correct, Dine like Deeenn is Religion but Ad'dddeeen or Eddine is The Religion, yes but NorEddine is actually an islamic prename, I am not sure if it was used before Islam or so, it seem also to be a Turkish origin name or maybe an Arab islamic name I don't know....NorEddine was used by muslim on Turkey...

korg_nikos · Post by **korg_nikos** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:38 am

jerrythek wrote:Our engineers are looking into it as we speak - I got your PM and asked. Stay tuned, but please be patient - I won't forget you!

Regards,

Jerry

Thanks Jerry.

korg_nikos · Post by **korg_nikos** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:43 am

KrzysiekK wrote:
neither nor nor xor ...

interesting is this Korg investigation, I am curious of the results

Lol...I guess you have read a lot about Logic Gates, Boolean Algebra and Karnaugh Maps KrzysiekK!!

Nor · Post by **Nor** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:15 pm

korg_nikos wrote:I would like to draw your attention to both problems that occur due to this bug.

Please note that the problem is not only the transpose but also the change of the scale that occurs after transposition.

Normally the root key of the scale should be automatically transposed to maintain the same scale after transposition.

This is what exactly is happening in all non Moss programs. You set Convert Position to Post-Midi and the Root Key of the scale you use follows up the Master Transpose. Therefore the scale is transposed tone-wise but it maintains its "characteristics" due to the fact that its Root Key followed up the Master Transposition. If you set the Midi Convert Position to Pre-Midi the Root Key of the scale won't get transposed so the scale will also change after transposition because the Root key won't follow up the general transpose.

In Triton Extreme Moss Enviroment we can not have both Correct Transpose and Automatic Follow Up of the Root Key to the Transposition at the same time due to the fact that

--Post-Midi state will make the Root Key of the scale to follow up the Master Transpose maintaining the scale chromatics but in the same time it won't be possible to transpose in semi-tonal steps

and

--Pre-Midi state will make semi-tonal transpose possible but it won't allow the Root Key to automatically follow up the Master Transpose spoiling the scale's chromatics

I am explaining the problem again here:

KORG TRITON EXTREME
EXB-MOSS MIDI TRANSPOSE BUG!

Let's say we have a moss program in F Bank witch uses a Scale Type=User Scale00. The User Scale is our ORIGINAL SCALE D that's D BAYATI, in User Octave Scale page, User Scale00 it is setup as followed:

_+00 +00_____+00 +00 +00_
+00 +00 -55 +00 +00 +00 -55

Case-1-: Global Mode/MIDI SETUP, if Convert Position = PostMIDI
Let's try to set Key Transpose = +01, the resulting converted scale is a D# Bayati in C#, it should be so D# Bayati in D.

Case-2-: Global Mode/MIDI SETUP, if Convert Position = PreMIDI
Let's try to set again Key Transpose = +01, the resulting converted scale is a D Bayati in C#, it should be so D# Bayati in D.
Actually we'd want the resulting root key belongs just in D key whatever is the key transpose.

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Now if we use non-Moss program from the other Banks, witch uses the same Scale Type=User Scale00. The User Scale is our ORIGINAL SCALE D that's D BAYATI, in User Octave Scale page, User Scale00 it is set as the same as above, here are what we get:
Case-1-: Global Mode/MIDI SETUP, if Convert Position = PostMIDI
Let's try to set Key Transpose = +01, the resulting converted scale is a D# Bayati in D, GOOD!

Case-2-: Global Mode/MIDI SETUP, if Convert Position = PreMIDI
Let's try to set again Key Transpose = +01, the resulting converted scale is a D bayati in C#...actually useless.

NOTE: if Key Transpose = -01, the opposite happens.

Nor · Post by **Nor** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:57 pm

any news?

Nor · Post by **Nor** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:34 pm

Nor · Post by **Nor** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:02 pm

korg_nikos · Post by **korg_nikos** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:50 am

ANY NEWS???

Post by **mikemolloyuk** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:25 pm

Hi

Have you contacted your Korg distributor for any news on this one?

It might be better for you than waiting for a reply here

Mike

korg_nikos · Post by **korg_nikos** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:30 pm

Hi Mike,

Personally no i haven't. According to the below Jerry's quote i am waiting for his follow up.

Do you happen to have any info that Korg gave out any OS updates to their local agents?

jerrythek wrote:Our engineers are looking into it as we speak - I got your PM and asked. Stay tuned, but please be patient - I won't forget you!

Regards,

Jerry

Post by **mikemolloyuk** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:52 pm

korg_nikos wrote:Hi Mike,

Personally no i haven't. According to the below Jerry's quote i am waiting for his follow up.

Do you happen to have any info that Korg gave out any OS updates to their local agents?

jerrythek wrote:Our engineers are looking into it as we speak - I got your PM and asked. Stay tuned, but please be patient - I won't forget you!

Regards,

Jerry

Ahh ok sorry... I didn't go back that far with it.... He should be in touch, please be patient.

Mike

jerrythek · Post by **jerrythek** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:54 pm

I'm sorry, but if I had news of course I would have reported it. Please remain patient.

Regards,

Jerry

korg_nikos · Post by **korg_nikos** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:22 am

Thanks for your support Jerry,

I can wait, i just wanted to be sure that this issue has not been forgotten.

Thanks again