Korg Oasys discontinued as of July 2008 (?)
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Every couple of months this topic comes up. The fact that the rumor (this time) started on the arranger forum at Sonik Matter is a good indicator to its "bogus-ness"-- the perpetrators are the Ketron guy and "lionstracs" who posts anti-Oasys sentiment all over the web. Clearly, there's some personal beef with the Oasys and every so often they like to get the user base whipped up into a frenzy.
I will reiterate what many other have said. In its current state, the Oasys has been well worth the investment. All this talk of quad-processor upgrades and massive hard drive capacity is actually moot; the Oasys is currently more than capable of doing what it was designed to do, and an extra drive of any capacity can be plugged in at any time! Even if you run out of polyphony, you can bounce to audio and add more tracks (like in the old days!) In theory, isn't the Oasys really capable of giving you the most inhumanly dense arrangements by bouncing 16 MIDI down to 1 audio, adding 16 more MIDI, bouncing down, etc., etc.?
Ditto that for computer connectivity. I run mine as the master controller for my whole DAW rig, which I can control with the realtime controls and I can even build combis on the fly by selecting the sounds from SONAR. Do I really need a VST layer in conjunction with that?
I don't see nearly as much complaining about other workstations not having quad cores. Look at older workstations and synths, heck even the M1 -- still a decent board, still in use in many studios worldwide, and there's no processor upgrade coming anytime soon for those!
Someday, there will be no more Oasyses of the current generation made. That's a fact. In the meantime, hopefully, there'll be more updates to the software that'll bring new features and improve existing ones. But even if there isn't, are we simply going to abandon these instruments as a "lost cause", because it wasn't powerful enough, or are we going to continue to use them to make music? If the Oasys is discontinued tomorrow, will I not be able to eke out at least as much music on it as I did on my old Rolands before they were discontinued?
I just don't see what the big worry is.
I will reiterate what many other have said. In its current state, the Oasys has been well worth the investment. All this talk of quad-processor upgrades and massive hard drive capacity is actually moot; the Oasys is currently more than capable of doing what it was designed to do, and an extra drive of any capacity can be plugged in at any time! Even if you run out of polyphony, you can bounce to audio and add more tracks (like in the old days!) In theory, isn't the Oasys really capable of giving you the most inhumanly dense arrangements by bouncing 16 MIDI down to 1 audio, adding 16 more MIDI, bouncing down, etc., etc.?
Ditto that for computer connectivity. I run mine as the master controller for my whole DAW rig, which I can control with the realtime controls and I can even build combis on the fly by selecting the sounds from SONAR. Do I really need a VST layer in conjunction with that?
I don't see nearly as much complaining about other workstations not having quad cores. Look at older workstations and synths, heck even the M1 -- still a decent board, still in use in many studios worldwide, and there's no processor upgrade coming anytime soon for those!
Someday, there will be no more Oasyses of the current generation made. That's a fact. In the meantime, hopefully, there'll be more updates to the software that'll bring new features and improve existing ones. But even if there isn't, are we simply going to abandon these instruments as a "lost cause", because it wasn't powerful enough, or are we going to continue to use them to make music? If the Oasys is discontinued tomorrow, will I not be able to eke out at least as much music on it as I did on my old Rolands before they were discontinued?
I just don't see what the big worry is.
So far every synth I've bought was discontinued sooner or later - and all I kept are still in a working condition. I hardly use them though - due to my Oasys. And not even one of my many computers did last as long as one of my kept synths. I experience these 2 facts as quite relaxing ...
@TagPass: I agree with most of your points - but let me ad, that one usually bounces 16 Midi to a pair of audio tracks (and not to 1). However - I've never experienced this as a constraint.

@TagPass: I agree with most of your points - but let me ad, that one usually bounces 16 Midi to a pair of audio tracks (and not to 1). However - I've never experienced this as a constraint.
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Yeah, that's what I meantone usually bounces 16 Midi to a pair of audio tracks (and not to 1).

I was trying to figure out how many tracks you could do that way -- but the math was making my head hurt! Nonetheless, bouncing down 8x16 and adding another 16 MIDI is still 144 stereo tracks -- and that's without rebouncing the audio. Taking that into account, the max track count is nearly limitless if you continually rebounce between two pairs of audio tracks, no? (Reminds me of how I started out recording with two consumer-level cassette decks!)
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That's how I started, too!TagPass wrote:(Reminds me of how I started out recording with two consumer-level cassette decks!)
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I usually go with stereo tracks, too. Just an FWI, once you save a song file, you can open the audio folder and stick audio tracks into sample slots. I don't know if the OASYS could handle it, but you could have 88 tracks with a single osc program.TagPass wrote:Yeah, that's what I meantI actually regard the audio recorder as an 8-stereo-track recorder rather than a 16-track, since I rarely record stuff in mono.
I was trying to figure out how many tracks you could do that way
It would probably work better if the samples were truncated to just the audio portions (instead of long pauses).
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I didn't want to pariticipate in this discussion, but...
It really doesn't matter, if the O's being discontinued or not. We have a fantastic instrument with a huge amount of possibilities. BUT, I have a bigger problem with that when it comes to software upgrades. Korg always said, that the open system would allow new features and upgrades to come for years. Mmmhh, 3 years is enough? Sounds not that long to me...
There have been so many good ideas for the wishlist, especially for improving the overall usability (sequencer, editing programs in combi mode, auto-loading of user samples etc.), that I would feel very sad, if discontinuing the O would also stop Korg from developing approvements.
But I've got to admit, even if it's totally clear that the O will be discontinued at some point in the future, no one (yes, Dan has commented on some things, but he hasn't said anything about this in particular) has said that it won't be discontinued this July to stop all this rumor and THAT really makes me think it could be so... It wouldn't reveal any kind of future plan if one would only say that a product will still be on the market for the next month. Mmhh...
It really doesn't matter, if the O's being discontinued or not. We have a fantastic instrument with a huge amount of possibilities. BUT, I have a bigger problem with that when it comes to software upgrades. Korg always said, that the open system would allow new features and upgrades to come for years. Mmmhh, 3 years is enough? Sounds not that long to me...
There have been so many good ideas for the wishlist, especially for improving the overall usability (sequencer, editing programs in combi mode, auto-loading of user samples etc.), that I would feel very sad, if discontinuing the O would also stop Korg from developing approvements.
But I've got to admit, even if it's totally clear that the O will be discontinued at some point in the future, no one (yes, Dan has commented on some things, but he hasn't said anything about this in particular) has said that it won't be discontinued this July to stop all this rumor and THAT really makes me think it could be so... It wouldn't reveal any kind of future plan if one would only say that a product will still be on the market for the next month. Mmhh...
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Worriers,
Korg's policy of silence has never been violated to my knowledge and if I were in Dan or Jerry's position, I wouldn't risk my job over it.
What will be, will be.
Rather than casting aspersions about the company or the people in it who follow policy, over what amounts to owner desires or expectations for more, more ,more, why not worry (if you must worry) over things that matter like: war, famine, global warming, and so on?
Korg knows full well, I'm sure, how rabid we O owners are and I'm sure they have taken note of the wish lists, etc.
Let's all just wait and see what happens. All owners have a fantastic instrument that cost far less than good brand acoustic pianos.
Ken
Korg's policy of silence has never been violated to my knowledge and if I were in Dan or Jerry's position, I wouldn't risk my job over it.
What will be, will be.
Rather than casting aspersions about the company or the people in it who follow policy, over what amounts to owner desires or expectations for more, more ,more, why not worry (if you must worry) over things that matter like: war, famine, global warming, and so on?
Korg knows full well, I'm sure, how rabid we O owners are and I'm sure they have taken note of the wish lists, etc.
Let's all just wait and see what happens. All owners have a fantastic instrument that cost far less than good brand acoustic pianos.

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Stephen Kay has said that the Oasys isn't being discontinued in the immediate future (as far as he knows).pandel wrote: But I've got to admit, even if it's totally clear that the O will be discontinued at some point in the future, no one (yes, Dan has commented on some things, but he hasn't said anything about this in particular) has said that it won't be discontinued this July to stop all this rumor and THAT really makes me think it could be so...
http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthre ... adid=12341
Pandel,pandel wrote:I didn't want to pariticipate in this discussion, but...
It really doesn't matter, if the O's being discontinued or not. We have a fantastic instrument with a huge amount of possibilities. BUT, I have a bigger problem with that when it comes to software upgrades. Korg always said, that the open system would allow new features and upgrades to come for years. Mmmhh, 3 years is enough? Sounds not that long to me...
There have been so many good ideas for the wishlist, especially for improving the overall usability (sequencer, editing programs in combi mode, auto-loading of user samples etc.), that I would feel very sad, if discontinuing the O would also stop Korg from developing approvements.
Ditto, my friend.
I subscribe everything you have said here.
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